Paper Negatives

[RalphLambrecht]

Yeah that's what I do as well, I just prefer it that way.

+1

 

[X. Phot.]

did not even think of that.

Other things that can be handy (for warm weather development) . . .

A small cooler to carry your chemisty. Toss in a hand full of ice as required to maintain a reasonable temp.
Another small cooler to carry just ice.
Plastic jugs of fresh water for washing the negative within the processing drum.
Empty plastic jugs for disposal of the waste water. (if you so desire.)

It only takes a few minutes to verify exposure this way.

PS: Don't forget to take plastic funnels.

 

[Reinhold]

I suggested that APUG establish a forum dedicated to paper negatives:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

If you'd like to keep all the information in one place here on APUG, speak up...
(Some of you already have.)

Reinhold

 

[zumbido]

My pinhole is built around a 5x7 picture frame that serves as the "film holder". I put in a piece of paper, it's held flat against the glass of the frame facing the pinhole. Close the back, expose the paper negative, develop, let it dry. I keep an 8x10 sheet of glass (decent quality anti-reflective framing glass) next to the enlarger. Once the neg is more or less dry, I just lay down a fresh 5x7 sheet on the easel (only because I'm too lazy to move it), lay the negative on it face-down, lay the 8x10 glass over both for some degree of flatness, and expose (without a lens in the enlarger, for the reasons stated above). Then, another round of dev for the newly-minted positive, and there it is.

Not counting the drying time, it takes me a total of under ten minutes effort to go from an exposed sheet of paper in the back of my pinhole to having a contact-printed positive. A significant chunk of that is spent determining the correct exposure time for any given negative (not very good at judging them yet-usually takes me two or three tries).

I could improve the quality, probably, with a proper contact-printing rig. It would hold things flatter and in better contact than a relatively lightweight sheet of glass like I'm using now. But, so far it hasn't been enough to worry me, since we're talking about pinhole here anyway. Crisp isn't exactly the point.

 

[X. Phot.]

Mt. Scott

Negative: 8x10 Anthony & Scovill Champion Variation No. 3 - RD Gray Periscope No. 6 - f/90 Waterhouse stop - 2x Yellow filter for contrast control - 8 to 16 second exposure - Arista.Edu Ultra VC Glossy Paper

Print: 8x10 contact - Enlarger as light source - Arista.Edu Ultra VC Glossy Paper - Polycontrast filter (probably 3-3.5)

 

[RalphLambrecht]

i like the idea!

 

[johnielvis]

So how do you guy get a positive print from the paper neg?

If there was a easy way to get a positive print from a paper neg, I would shoot it all the time.

I could just shoot positive paper reliably, i would do that.

I have done this successfully with regular reversal process. I want to explore more, but the papers available in cut sizes are too slow speed and only senstive to blue/green.

There is some newer "digital silver" paper which looks like it will be faster and panchromatic, but it is only sold in large rolls--this has promise but I don't want to buy a huge roll to test a bit. I have a WTB for some sheets of it if somebody has a roll that can sell me some cut down or a small section of a roll and I can cut it.

direct positive to paper is what I want to do eventually all the time...right now doing film transparencies, but paper would be easier to handle and MUCH LESS problems in the scratching department (an no anti-halation dye problems).

The photobooth people won't tell me where they get their fast speed paper from--they will offer small strips, but I want to shoot larger sheets.

ANYBODY with any of the ilford digital silver pan paper who can sell me some to test, please contact me. johnielvis@aol.com

or anybody with information of where to get photobooth type paper in LARGER sizes, please contact me. johnielvis@aol.com

only "problem" with direct positive is reversed image if you don't use a reversing prism....

 

[Reinhold]

Folks:

If you'd like a dedicated forum on Paper Negatives, let Sean & Co. know your request.

Visit this thread on the Feedback and Discussion Forum:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)
...and cast your vote.

Otherwise the information on this fascinating topic will get scattered over the 1,153,801 posts already on APUG.

Reinhold

 

[jesterthejedi]

My first paper negative

I wanted to test out my recent camera as I am new to darkroom fun, and I put in a small piece of RC paper in my Hasselblad 503. To get the on screen I scanned and horizontally reversed it and checked to make sure the levels were okay in GIMP.

 

[axs810]

Here are some of my paper negatives. I prefer using ilford fiber paper glossy or adox mc110