You've lost me completely. Please explain further.
To help focus your thoughts, look at this shot http://1drv.ms/1pvlksm taken with a 38/4.5 Biogon, a Century Graphic, and a 2x3 roll holder. Many are the cropping opportunities.
There is no substitute for the Xpan, the greatest camera ever created.
Except the Mamiya 7ii with 35mm pano adapter
I'm asked to enter a password when I follow your link.
There is no substitute for the Xpan, the greatest camera ever created.
Stuff and nonsense. All that can be done with an Xpan can be done at lower cost with a humble Century Graphic. And more can be done with a Century than with an Xpan. The Century offers a much wider range of focal lengths and greater cropping opportunities.
This isn't to denigrate the Xpan or the Alpa 12. Both are extremely well made and robust, are lovely artifacts. Users love both and its easy to understand why. But a Century Graphic is more capable and much less expensive.
Are you joking?
No he is not. The X-Pan is a great camera, but it is not the only camera that can take a great panorama photograph. WideLux also can do the job.
True, more detail, and wider panoramic too if you add strips or 35mm
A little bulkier but can't beat the price!
I still think the Mamiya 7ii is better, better lenses (can't dispute this even if you want to, everyone knows they are the sharpest best MF lenses ever made, and you can both use 35mm and 120 in them, the 120 gives you more vertical surface area even if you plan to crop it in panoramic, and you have the option of no film gate so you can expose on the sprockets for that "Lomo" look but better definition images than any Lomo.
Price is higher, but less used than the xpan... And more lens options
Are you joking?
Thanks for the bad news. It should now work, please try again. The link is still http://1drv.ms/1pvlksm
I tried, but it still says:
"Because you're accessing sensitive info, you need to verify your password."
It wants me to sign in with some sort of Microsoft account. That I won't do (even if I had one).
Don't know where or what it is.
Can't you post the image here in this thread instead?
Bert, I believe you. I just checked again and the file should be accessible to anyone who has the link. The link is still http://1drv.ms/1pvlksm
If you haven't closed your browser since this nonsense began, please close it (all the way, don't just close a tab), restart it and try again. Sorry for the inconvenience.
For some reason, you really sound like a guy that doesn't own a Mamiya 7 and that has never tried a Xpan system.
Bert, the lens is a 38/4.5 Biogon that I extracted from an AGI F.135 aerial camera. The late Steve Grimes put it in a Copal #0 for me. This is the same lens as sold with all vintages of Super Wide 'blads except the most recent.
The vignetting is due to the lens. It is made to cover 80 mm, in fact covers 84 mm sharply and illuminates 86 mm. It absolutely positively won't cover 2.25" x 3.25" (6x9 in metric) but will nearly cover 24 x 82. When cropped to 24 x 82 the last couple of mm in the corners aren't there at all.
dont even think about the horizon compact. its a total mess, non-focussable cam with reduced exposure times an apertures. Idiotic! Only lomo can have such a crazy idea. Not knowing how such a camera must work.An Xpan with a 90mm lens, and a cropped 6x7 from say, an RB67 wiht a 90mm will look the same. of course. The Xpan also has a 45mm lens, much wider. However, I have a 50mm lens for the RB67, and so get very close by simply cropping and using a slice of the negative that's 1" x 2.25'.
On the other hand, I also use a swing-lens Horizon that takes a rotating panoramic picture covering (IIRC) 120 degrees. It is a totally different animal.
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