I don't know if you've used the US version of eBay, and searched for camera gear there, but it's not uncommon for more than half the results of any given search on specific equipment to be from Japanese sellers. And their sticker prices tend to be lower than what the US sellers are charging: they have to be, if they weren't, they'd be locking themselves out of that market.
For example, I just searched eBay for "Olympus Pen F" and sorted by price. Out of the first 20 results, 14 are Japanese, 6 are US sellers.
For Canada to be a bigger import market than US for Japanese cameras, due to the population difference, the Canadian interest in these products would have to be 8 or 9 times the US interest per capita... nothing about that adds up to me as realistic. Frankly, I find people from Canada and the US to be very similar in their interests.
The issue is the tariffs are charged to and paid by the buyer. In today's trade conditions, the seller has no idea what the tariff will be at the time of the item's entry into the U.S. So, unless the seller has offered to reimburse the buyer after the delivery and has been made and the tariff charged, there is little that can be done beyond lowering the price to compensate for a guess at what the buyer might have to pay on the receiving end. A mess.
Why would sellers in another country lower prices ?
Maybe they want the item off their books and sold
Stock turnover is what keeps small businesses alive.
Stock turnover only keeps small businesses alive if there is sufficient profit attached to the turnover.
The percentages at issue are far from minor!
If you have a slow moving stock item you would rather sell at a loss as you can use that money to buy something that will move with a higher profit.
Not all items would fit that description, but I'll bet those that do would be discounted and presented as a bargain.
I've done that on Epay many times.
At the same time GB, are you paying rent, utilities, wages ?
I've seen bargain bins in Japanese stores which makes sense.... but why sell for a loss & then pay for packing materials and tie up a staff to package that item...?
I recently got a (Japanese) lens from an ebay seller in Japan, and while there was some initial confusion about whether or not the import duties/tariffs were included, it ended up being a pretty painless process. eBay had a message on the listing page stating: “This item includes applicable import fees—you won’t pay anything extra after checkout”, which conflicted with the “Duties not included” banner that the seller had added to all the photos in the listing. I figured that even if I ended up having to pay tariffs on top of the cost of the lens, it would still work out to be a good deal, and it was; I ended up paying slightly less than if I had bought it from KEH.
At the moment people will dig into their own pockets for operating expenses as long as the creditors allow them to continue trading.
"As of August 29th, the US government has removed the $800 de minimis exemption on goods entering the USA. This means that every order, no matter the value, may now face import taxes and fees.
Because these charges are unpredictable and can be quite high, we’ve made the difficult decision to pause US shipping for now while we figure out the best path forward.
We know how many of you count on our papers and products, and it breaks our hearts to step back from sending them your way. Thank you for your patience and for being such an important part of our story—we can’t wait for the day we’re able to ship to you again.
I recently got a (Japanese) lens from an ebay seller in Japan, and while there was some initial confusion about whether or not the import duties/tariffs were included, it ended up being a pretty painless process. eBay had a message on the listing page stating: “This item includes applicable import fees—you won’t pay anything extra after checkout”, which conflicted with the “Duties not included” banner that the seller had added to all the photos in the listing. I figured that even if I ended up having to pay tariffs on top of the cost of the lens, it would still work out to be a good deal, and it was; I ended up paying slightly less than if I had bought it from KEH.
The seller messaged me immediately after I sent my payment to let me know that I would be responsible for paying the customs duties and very politely gave me the option to cancel the sale if I didn’t want to deal with it. Once the package was with the carrier (DHL Express), I got a message from DHL with the bill for the additional charges: The cost of the lens was ~ $160 and the import fees were $22.50, plus $17 for “processing” on DHL’s part and $1.34 “regulatory charges”. Payment was easy to do online and overall it was as smooth as I could hope for.
I’m wondering if some overseas sellers may be lowering their “buy it now” prices to stay competitive given the extra duties US buyers are having to pay. Having tried it since the new customs duties were imposed, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy from a seller in Japan again and I’m grateful to have the option, especially for used gear that might be scarce on this side of the pond.
The cost to import depends on the country of origin, not the country you are sourcing from.
So if you purchase from Austria a Leica camera built in Germany and a Leica lens built in Canada, different tariff rates may apply.
And in addition, there are a bunch of charges that at least in the short term have been added but are not reflected on the basic tariff classification - sometimes referred to as "reciprocal tariffs".
It seems to be a mess.
Across the range of all imported products, that might be the case.
What is the concrete situation for pre-owned 35mm cameras, for example?
The dealer will charge the appropriate tariff amount to the end user. It's not much different than a US company like B&H Photo having to add 50 different sales taxes on their products shipped to the 50 states. Each state imposes their own amount different than all the others.
Obviously I am most familiar with the effects on the price of goods produced in Canada and then exported into the USA.
And outside of some Leica lenses, plus some Canadian Kodak manufactured cameras back when Canadian Kodak made cameras, there aren't many photographic products that that applies to.
The same rules apply to used and new goods - import duties and taxes are based on market values.
And discussion about how frequently those rates have been changed - usually with little or no warning - is so political as to make that subject inappropriate for Photrio.
Yes, technically duties and tariffs aren’t quite the same:Duty and Tariffs are two different things.
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