Nikon .jp just added "Old Product" next to F6 designation: https://translate.google.com/transl...//www.nikon-image.com/products/slr/lineup/f6/ (I hope the google translate works for you, otherwise: https://www.nikon-image.com/products/slr/lineup/f6/)
I seriously doubt if it is that which is preventing his clarification. He may not know of course what the definitive Nikon position is on the F6 and there's no shame in that. He may be working to find out the accurate position. We just don't know
It what they call the "closing down notice" tactic We had a sports shop in my town do that for about 2 years. It worked brilliantlyI wish they did like JBL with their discontinued 590 speakers. Whenever they discontinue them there is a flurry of interest in acquiring them and they make more. Been going on for a few year now.
It what they call the "closing down notice" tactic We had a sports shop in my town do that for about 2 years. It worked brilliantly
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Yes. And the Nikon Direct store shows 販売終了 and Yodobashi Camera shows 販売を終了しました. It's discontinued.
Yes especially when you pave paradise and put up a parking lot."You don't know what you've got till it's gone."
From what I can guess about him, he only open his mouth when he has solid information. So, I guess we will have to wait until he does.
Thanks Oren I wonder what if anything this says about the real state of film revival?
I’d think they’d want a completely overhauled design.The F6N?
So basically everyone is getting richer by the selling of used and new cameras but not Nikon. At Nikon they must have been very stupid!It says nothing at this phase. The real state of the film revival is determined by the sales of film, and not by the sales of just one 'niche in the niche' camera product.
The film sales are increasing. And fortunately they have even continued their increase during this pandemic (at least so far).
And concerning camera sales: Even if Nikon has to discontinue the F6, Leica for example is reporting increasing sales of their classic film M Leica cameras for years now. Demand is surpassing their current production capacity. And the demand for used film cameras is strongly increasing in general, which is the main reason for the increasing prices on the used market.
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Guys, we must understand what “film revival” actually means.
It means it’s a niche. A niche. Nothing professional, but craft-level.
There are still professionals shooting film and an increasing and surprisingly large number of them.Guys, we must understand what “film revival” actually means.
It means it’s a niche. A niche. Nothing professional, but craft-level.
We will never go back to shooting assignments with films. Developing and print overnight for deadlines. No magazines (do they still exist?) will ever require film images.
NO MEDIA ON EARTH will go back to REQUIRING film images. Manually working like an athletic dog, for hours, just to churn out one single image that could be done in Photoshop within 12 seconds? To satisfy a market that offers an attention span of 0.012 seconds to any image, even a MASTERPIECE? LoL!
It’s a craft. If watercolors still exist, film will exist. And both have an equal market.
A new film camera? Sure, in about 50 years when the used market will dry up and ressemble a landfill, a new film camera will be manufactured in order to match demand. This is no rocket science, really.
Film photography is a craft, and this is its revival: the arts and crafts market.
So basically everyone is getting richer by the selling of used and new cameras but not Nikon. At Nikon they must have been very stupid!
That kind of fatalistic attitude and tone will only be self amplifying and self-fulfilling.Yes. Let's enjoy it while it lasts, because it may never happen again.
Guys, we must understand what “film revival” actually means.
It means it’s a niche. A niche. Nothing professional, but craft-level.
We will never go back to shooting assignments with films. .....No magazines (do they still exist?) will ever require film images.
It’s a craft. If watercolors still exist, film will exist. And both have an equal market.
A new film camera? Sure, in about 50 years when the used market will dry up and ressemble a landfill, a new film camera will be manufactured in order to match demand. This is no rocket science, really.
That kind of fatalistic attitude and tone will only be self amplifying and self-fulfilling.
I'm not the one to compare the Vinyl revival with film normally, but it's been going for fifteen years plus and shows no signs of slowing down.
We need to actively try to remove the sense in some people, that film is this kind of kooky, fickle whimsical fad, "that is very charming and all but...".
And get it into everybody's heads that film is technically and very solidly, in a fundamental way, just a better and more aestetically pleasing method and technology for recording images, that can not in any way or shape be "emulated". In the same way you can not emulate a Ferrari with a pickup truck.
That's why we desperately need better affordable scanners, keep wet printing alive in labs and make it prosper, and make viewing slide easier.
It is indeed a niche compared to digital imaging. But it is a growing niche. And in absolute terms the whole silver-halid products market globally has a size of more than a billion dollars. So it is not a small niche.
And that there is "nothing professional" is fortunately completely wrong. There is a five-digit number of professional photographers worldwide using film. This number is also slightly increasing again.
Both is fortunately wrong. We know of assigments shot on film, and lately even big fashion magazines (like Vogue) have published film images again. Because the film look was wanted.
The market for film photography is much much bigger than the market for watercolor painting. Please don't forget that the market for instant film photography alone is meanwhile a huge mass market again, even surpassing the market for digital ILC cameras. E.g. you can get instax film in the big supermarkets, or here in Germany in the drugstore chain shops. So available in about 4,000 walk-in stores in one country alone (together with 35mm standard film, by the way, and processing for C41, E6 and BW). You won't find equipment for watercolor painting in these shops.
About 5 years is much more likely, if we consider 35mm and 120 film. In pinhole and LF we already have got lots of new camera models during the last years, even total new manufacturers for them have come to market.
And lots of new instant film cameras.
It even could be the case that 2020 will be the first year since 2003 in which in total more film cameras will be sold again than digital cameras. The current published data for digital cameras for 2020 indicates that this year the digital camera production will likely be in the 7.5 to 8.5 million units area (a historical low). Fujifilm alone has sold 10 million instax film cameras in their 2019 fiscal year.
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