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Good news.
BTW There's no apostrophe in 1960s.
You sure? I guess unless you're talking about ownership, like the 60's owned me. Like that haha?
~Stone
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There was if you were there.
Hmmm, I remember buying some from Freestyle in the early 1990s that, as I recall, they said were Ilford. Maybe that's the 'in the UK' part on the announcement. Whatever they were, the were by far the best I've ever seen - thick black metal body, nice coppery caps, sturdy reels, good felt, tough and secure as hell. Obviously would have lasted forever, maybe with felt replacement after a decade or two....
Too bad I had to leave most of them in Belarus (I'd lived there a year, and didn't have room in my luggage when I left - though would have if I knew I'd never see such quality again!). Anyway, I just bought a bunch of cassettes on eb, so look forward to seeing what Ilford/H. make next time I need some! I can only dream they'd be as good as those I had 20+ years ago!
Ilford/Harman continues to be one of the brightest spots in the too often dark world of photography.
Oh - I just read the full posts on this and saw the note about not reloadable; so I'll limp along with the flimsy metal ones I can get for now. Anyway, I can't get enough of HP5 et al., and must try some of that Kentmere soon... loaded into my flimsy Korean cassettes.
Too bad I had to leave most of them in Belarus (I'd lived there a year, and didn't have room in my luggage when I left - though would have if I knew I'd never see such quality again!). Anyway, I just bought a bunch of cassettes on eb, so look forward to seeing what Ilford/H. make next time I need some! I can only dream they'd be as good as those I had 20+ years ago!
Ilford/Harman continues to be one of the brightest spots in the too often dark world of photography.
Oh - I just read the full posts on this and saw the note about not reloadable; so I'll limp along with the flimsy metal ones I can get for now. Anyway, I can't get enough of HP5 et al., and must try some of that Kentmere soon... loaded into my flimsy Korean cassettes.
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From about 1975 or so for many years both Agfa and Ilford used basicaly the same cassettes, there were minor differences. These were plain black metal and had a paper label. They DID NOT have a DX code. The Agfa ones tended to have silver caps, the Ilford ones were more of a gold colour. I don't beleive that either company sold them Empty, but folks like freestyle would get them from film labs. I recall getting one batch from Freestyle which were still labeled "agfachrome" in german.
over time the End caps changed to black. BUT the need for DX coding came in, and so newer designs came out with the Crimped end caps, and lithographed body having a bar code and the alll important film speed contacts.
The spanish firm AP Photoplast sold a version of the old AGFA/Ilford cassette just for bulk loading, but the quality has gone downhill, and I gather the tooling that they were made on has worn out. Freesyile had had the AP cassettes under there ARISTA brand on clearnace for a while and only the ASA100 DX version was left.
I don't know if AP made these or they actually came from AGFA. I am sure Simon will not be in a position to comment on where Ilford has been getting their cassettes. (I recall a distributor rep answering a quiry when the crimped cassettes came out mentioning that Ilford actually bought their cassettes from Agfa. but I am not sure if that was refering to the old style or the crimp style)
The Ilford cassettes of 50 years ago were MAGNIFICENT. I only ever had a couple of them, and one of those got away from me. The end caps were Drawn Aluminum. the cassette body was also thin aluminum and fully feft lined. the end caps were held on by the paper label which you could cut with your finger nail to remove the caps. Since the caps overlaped the body by about a 1/4 inch they would be imposible to DX code.
This is good news. Thanks to Ilford for continuing to show their strong interest in this medium.
I love the films you guys make. As long as I have film cameras and a finger to hit the shutter button, I will use Ilford film.
I love the films you guys make. As long as I have film cameras and a finger to hit the shutter button, I will use Ilford film.
Here's a link to a Pop Photo article that might be the new Ilford product, called the Ilford Obscura Pure Pinhole Camera:
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It appears to use a magnetic lock on the shutter (the two white dots?), but I can't tell from the brief article if it takes standard film holders or is loaded as a one-shot camera in a changing bag. There's an interesting flange on the back that looks to me like it opens up like a box. Viewing lines or dots would have been helpful on the sides or top, as an aid in composition; perhaps the final design will include them. Hopefully more info will come out soon.
~Joe
Update: the original release was reported by ephotozine, here:
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/ilford-obscura-pinhole-camera-announced-21522
According to the article, the camera will feature:
87mm focal length
Magnetic lock design
Front rotates for left or right hand use
Holds paper in position for white border
0.3mm chemical etched pinhole
Tripod converter bush
Can be used with 4x5 film or paper
So, it appears to be a one-shot camera that holds the film or paper along its edge, creating in the process a white border. The rotating front is interesting, too. Expected retail price, according to the article, is £69, which sounds very affordable. Exciting times for commercial pinhole cameras.
Update: Here's the brief mention of the product on Ilford's website:
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/whatsnew/obscura/main.asp
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It appears to use a magnetic lock on the shutter (the two white dots?), but I can't tell from the brief article if it takes standard film holders or is loaded as a one-shot camera in a changing bag. There's an interesting flange on the back that looks to me like it opens up like a box. Viewing lines or dots would have been helpful on the sides or top, as an aid in composition; perhaps the final design will include them. Hopefully more info will come out soon.
~Joe
Update: the original release was reported by ephotozine, here:
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/ilford-obscura-pinhole-camera-announced-21522
According to the article, the camera will feature:
87mm focal length
Magnetic lock design
Front rotates for left or right hand use
Holds paper in position for white border
0.3mm chemical etched pinhole
Tripod converter bush
Can be used with 4x5 film or paper
So, it appears to be a one-shot camera that holds the film or paper along its edge, creating in the process a white border. The rotating front is interesting, too. Expected retail price, according to the article, is £69, which sounds very affordable. Exciting times for commercial pinhole cameras.
Update: Here's the brief mention of the product on Ilford's website:
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/whatsnew/obscura/main.asp
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I'll third that.
I often put films in my EOS 3, rate them to 1 or 2 stops higher, shoot a few shots, then sometimes do a mid-roll-rewind to swap to another film. I always remember to write on the canister what frame I'm up to, and the speed i shot it at, but then when I put it back in the camera for more shots I remember to get the frame count back up, but completely forget to re-set the ISO to whatever I was using before and it goes back to DX-set box speed (hey, I can only remember one number at once).
(yes, there's probably a custom-function to tell the EOS 3 to ignore the DX-code, but i'm too lazy to find my manual and set it. It's easier to tell Ilford what to do...)
I often put films in my EOS 3, rate them to 1 or 2 stops higher, shoot a few shots, then sometimes do a mid-roll-rewind to swap to another film. I always remember to write on the canister what frame I'm up to, and the speed i shot it at, but then when I put it back in the camera for more shots I remember to get the frame count back up, but completely forget to re-set the ISO to whatever I was using before and it goes back to DX-set box speed (hey, I can only remember one number at once).
(yes, there's probably a custom-function to tell the EOS 3 to ignore the DX-code, but i'm too lazy to find my manual and set it. It's easier to tell Ilford what to do...)
Many of the Canon SLR camera will Blink "ISO" constantly if they can't read the the DX code. Some models will stop blinking if you set an ISO, but some won't.
I would love to see a fresh source of Reloadable Cassettes, but with DX codes. I have a bunch of non-coded Ilford (and Agfa) cassettes from over the years which I have put away because the darn Canon does not like to not find the code. The older ones were MUCH better Physically than the DX coded ones of the same general design sold over the last few years. (and those appear to be non longer available)
You can modify unmarked cassettes by scratching off the paint to match codes, or buy some self-adhesive aluminum tape (used for sealing ductwork) at a hardware store. Porter's Camera Store sold self-adhesive DX-coded labels, but now they're closing, I don't know of another source.
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there is a camera store in the UK who makes some, they will not send them out of the country, but Someone I know from a mailing list was kind enough to get some on my behalf. Unfortunately they are poorly designed as far as having a positive way to locate them and they are so thin that I doubt that they will last many cycles. Also they were quite expensive even if just the UK price was taken into account.
Wow. I'd never, ever give up Acros film. Not in a million years. The day Fujifilm stops selling Acros is the day I lose interest in photography.
3 rolls Acros film shot today during my weekly urban hike!
You have got to be kidding??
I mean, I like Acros, and it has a different spectral sensitivity and thus a different look from other films, and the best (lack of) reciprocity failure I know of, but it's not magic.
I can't think of any one film that would make me give up photography if it went away.
I agree, unless of course you specifically ONLY shoot super long 6 hour exposures at night, then you technically couldn't do it with any other film for the reciprocity failure reasons, but it's silly to say you would give up photography altogether, plus have you tried other films, PanF+ or FP4+ ? They are spectacular!
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I'm sure someone would love to take a proper black & white photograph of Mr. Elton on HARMAN/ILFORD products for future press releases.
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