If HP would put this technology in a 17" printer, then we would have something to celebrate. I've got to think that a 24" printer is just too big for most users.I am not in the market for a new printer, having bought a 3880 quite recently... but skimming the document and watching the video, it really is fantastic to see HP pushing forward with this.
David; the new darkroom setup looks great. Hope you are having fun printing in there!
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Thanks David. It's a shame it's on Youtube the site is banned in Turkey, so I can't access, it.
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Angel, really appreciate your effort to make dig neg practical but I can't see how we can apply this at all for the 3100. We can't install the "paper" profile because of a "dependency error" -- not the right firmware version (not 3200 firmware). Additionally we have no option at the wheel to export a chart for printing. J Vee
I think this novelty has a certain potential of increasing the sales HP's of advanced printers with carriage size >= A3+ / 19"... (Which also can do CLC and profiling - I think it's time for a A3+ desktop printer that can profile itself anyway!) Many people interested in alt-processes ask for a recommendation of printer; frankly, such a new model would be my first (and only!) recommendation...
Regards,
Loris.
You are right! HP won't make any $$$ on this as long as it is only available on printers costing thousands -- it need to be pushed down into the realm of better quality consumer models. If HP doesn't want to do the work, they might consider making an SDK (software development kit) or at least publishing the software interfaces so we can do the value-add work ourselves.I think this novelty has a certain potential of increasing the sales HP's of advanced printers with carriage size >= A3+ / 19"... (Which also can do CLC and profiling - I think it's time for a A3+ desktop printer that can profile itself anyway!) Many people interested in alt-processes ask for a recommendation of printer; frankly, such a new model would be my first (and only!) recommendation...
Regards,
Loris.
Angel, really appreciate your effort to make dig neg practical but I can't see how we can apply this at all for the 3100. We can't install the "paper" profile because of a "dependency error" -- not the right firmware version (not 3200 firmware). Additionally we have no option at the wheel to export a chart for printing. J Vee
Hi Bob,
You can find the document explaining how to use it here:
http://h10088.www1.hp.com/gap/download/MakingHPLargeFormatPhotoNegatives1_0.pdf
And the paper preset plus some calibration files here:
http://h10088.www1.hp.com/gap/download/HPLargeFormatPhotoNegatives.zip
Thank you for your interest.
Angel.
I should have said , where do I purchase the software? HP direct?
Sorry Bob,
I have replied you in the bad thread.
All you need are this two files. The solution is free.
The only thing that you need to do is to download them and enjoy making negatives.
(And to let me know if you have any problem).
Angel.
Hi Angel, and all (as I am new here),
Considering this/your Digital Large Negative Printing solution,
to print only Images from Photoshop, I could use the Raster Z3200 hp printer (Q6718A)...or is the Postcript one (Q6720A) necessary ?
I was at Arles for the Rip2010 but did not assist to the presentation ;
Is there any HP contact here, in France (with knowledge about Digital Large Neg for Pt/Pd) ?
Thanks, Regards, Ft
i know this is an old thread, and it appears Angel is no longer with the forum.
Is there anyone out there using either the HP z3100 or z3200 the way outlined in the video and pdf? From what I can tell , the paper preset (.oms file) is specific to the z3200, although the z3100 uses the same green ink (and should have the same UV response).
jim
thanks for responding so quickly!
That's too bad.. i was hoping on something similar to the QTR solution, but for HP. For all other printing, I've found my time with the 3100 to be much better than with my Epson's (3000, 7000, 9000, 9500, 7600). I've had the 3100 since they were released, and have never had a head clog (sometimes months have gone by without printing). I've been able to use it for digital negatives, using a combination of Mark's PDN, ChartThrob to get the curve. The problem with the Photoshop curve solution is that the curves are so extreme, that getting any sort of precision is difficult. From what I've read of the QTR method, this isn't the case.
Using the PDN/Chartthrob method, you'd still be using a minimal # of inks. I suspect having the linearization done in the printer rather than photoshop would still be more precise.
(and i don't think i'll be holding my breath for QTR type software for the HP.. and getting an Epson for negs is more an issue of 'where would i possibly put *2* printers that size
thanks again Dave!
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