New TMax P3200

[Tim Gray]

I purchased 100 rolls and am preparingto shoot 40 this coming week.
I missed that film

One of my favorite films. I always liked your photos on it as well.

 

[NB23]

Hey Tim!
Thanks

 

[Adrian Bacon]

I have $3044 worth of Acros in my cart right now at B & H. 10 bricks of 35mm film and 100 pro packs of 120.

Wait until the order processing comes back online and then start the checkout process. If they actually have that much it’ll let you, otherwise it’ll show a message that says you’re ordering more than their inventory levels and will have to wait.

 

[Colin Corneau]

Besides...what is wrong with buying two hundred rolls of film to use for yourself? I go through twice that much 35mm film in a year. Not to mention that bulk buying can result in good discounts if you choose your sellers wisely.

Definitely! I was thinking if I had more $$ I'd happily buy that much (and even more happily USE it)

 

[Adrian Bacon]

I have $3044 worth of Acros in my cart right now at B & H. 10 bricks of 35mm film and 100 pro packs of 120.

Scratch that, I just tried to add 1000 rolls of 135-36 Acros and it came back and said that was too much. I turned it down and it turns out they’ll only let me add 200 rolls to my cart. Your 10 bricks is only 1 case. Assuming they’re factoring stuff already in shopping carts in, probably 300-400 rolls is what they have, otherwise they have 200 rolls on hand.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

...Assuming they’re factoring stuff already in shopping carts in, probably 300-400 rolls is what they have, otherwise they have 200 rolls on hand.

Not a valid conclusion. First, B&H does not decrement from stock when items are in shopping carts, only when orders are placed. Second, for items where it decide resellers rather than consumers might be a significant factor, it imposes a limit on quantity allowed in carts that is unrelated to stock on hand. In those cases, attempts to add more than that limit to one's cart will result in a message saying "Maximum quantity is X." Unlike attempts to exceed available stock, which result in a message at the top of the cart saying "The quantity of X in your cart is more than we have available; delivery will take an additional Y-Z days." I've paraphrased, but that's the gist of what is displayed.

 

[Adrian Bacon]

Not a valid conclusion. First, B&H does not decrement from stock when items are in shopping carts, only when orders are placed. Second, for items where it decide resellers rather than consumers might be a significant factor, it imposes a limit on quantity allowed in carts that is unrelated to stock on hand. In those cases, attempts to add more than that limit to one's cart will result in a message saying "Maximum quantity is X." Unlike attempts to exceed available stock, which result in a message at the top of the cart saying "The quantity of X in your cart is more than we have available; delivery will take an additional Y-Z days." I've paraphrased, but that's the gist of what is displayed.

That makes sense

 

[EdSawyer]

interesting discussion. I rarely buy film on amazon, as mentioned B&H is usually cheaper/better/fresher, and their regular free shipping gets to me in 2 days regardless, so it's a win-win from my point of view.

 

[darkosaric]

I just finished first roll. I developed it in Rodinal 1+25 with strong agitation, so that I get maximal huge grain (and huge it is). Next roll I will develop in Tmax developer for a nice grain.

 

[crypt47]

Hello comrades In soviet russia we also in harry for a new film. Considering our government constantly inventing some obstacles for masses including additional import taxes every year, I thought making some storage would be good. And German suppliers are ready to help... but the film that came today has expiration date set for 10/2019 which drastically differs from Ilford which makes it about 3 years. So tell me what's going on? This can't be an old stock, right? Do you also have about a year till expiration? I'm confused.

p.s.
no polital conversation intended, just have a good mood because of the film delivery

 

[darkosaric]

Yes, my Tmax rolls have also expiration date late 2019.

 

[crypt47]

The same store with tmax 400 btw. Maybe Ilford and Kodak estimate presirvation time differently. I don't think Ilford add more preservatives.)

 

[Cholentpot]

Hello comrades In soviet russia we also in harry for a new film. Considering our government constantly inventing some obstacles for masses including additional import taxes every year, I thought making some storage would be good. And German suppliers are ready to help... but the film that came today has expiration date set for 10/2019 which drastically differs from Ilford which makes it about 3 years. So tell me what's going on? This can't be an old stock, right? Do you also have about a year till expiration? I'm confused.

p.s.
no polital conversation intended, just have a good mood because of the film delivery

Faster film degrades quicker, no worries though. The proletariat will endure comrade!

 

[crypt47]

Faster film degrades quicker, no worries though. The proletariat will endure comrade!

Yeh, thanks Valid point about fast film, but my Ilford Delta 3200 marked till 2021.

 

[Cholentpot]

Yeh, thanks Valid point about fast film, but my Ilford Delta 3200 marked till 2021.

British Imperial Socialist.

 

[crypt47]

British Imperial Socialist.

haha

 

[darkosaric]

Next what I will try is to expose Delta 3200 and Tmax 3200 in the same camera (@1600 most probably, not to push them too high), and develop them together in the same tank (Tmax dev 1+4, 9 minutes).

 

[Agulliver]

Firstly there is NO WAY the new P3200 is old stock. The last run was in 2012 and even with a three year expiry date it would have expired in 2015.

P3200 was always known to have a shorter shelf life than any other modern films. I suspect Kodak are being careful with the expiry date.

As an example, a couple of rolls I had left over from 2008 were kept in the fridge until I attempted to use them in 2016. Both came out with nothing on them at all, not even the edge markings...nada...zip...developed as per Kodak timings in ID-11 along with other films which came out fine.

P3200 just doesn't have a long shelf life.

 

[MultiFormat Shooter]

As an example, a couple of rolls I had left over from 2008 were kept in the fridge until I attempted to use them in 2016. Both came out with nothing on them at all, not even the edge markings...nada...zip...developed as per Kodak timings in ID-11 along with other films which came out fine.

P3200 just doesn't have a long shelf life.

I have two rolls with a 2015 expiration date that have been kept frozen (not refrigerated), do you think that they'd be worth using? Maybe expose them at EI 1000 or 1250?

 

[RattyMouse]

Firstly there is NO WAY the new P3200 is old stock. The last run was in 2012 and even with a three year expiry date it would have expired in 2015.

P3200 was always known to have a shorter shelf life than any other modern films. I suspect Kodak are being careful with the expiry date.

As an example, a couple of rolls I had left over from 2008 were kept in the fridge until I attempted to use them in 2016. Both came out with nothing on them at all, not even the edge markings...nada...zip...developed as per Kodak timings in ID-11 along with other films which came out fine.

P3200 just doesn't have a long shelf life.

Another reason to use Delta 3200. I've used very expired rolls of this film without any problems.

 

[Mackinaw]

I have two rolls with a 2015 expiration date that have been kept frozen (not refrigerated), do you think that they'd be worth using? Maybe expose them at EI 1000 or 1250?

I too, had a few rolls of expired (2015) P3200 in my freezer. I shot one of these rolls back in March. The negs look absolutely perfect. I shot at an EI of 800, and developed in Xtol.

Jim B.

 

[fjpod]

I don't blame places like bh from preventing people from hoarding...only to have the product show up on Amazon at stupid prices. I suspect they have way more inventory than they will let you buy at one time. I always get my order in 1 to 2 days. Free.

 

[MultiFormat Shooter]

I too, had a few rolls of expired (2015) P3200 in my freezer. I shot one of these rolls back in March. The negs look absolutely perfect. I shot at an EI of 800, and developed in Xtol.

Jim B.

Thanks! I'll go ahead and give them at try, and back-off on the EI, down to 800, like you did.

 

[MultiFormat Shooter]

...shot at an EI of 800, and developed in Xtol.

I forgot to ask, did you process at the given time for EI 800 or EI 3,200?

Thanks!

 

[fjpod]

Thanks! I'll go ahead and give them at try, and back-off on the EI, down to 800, like you did.

So, I'm not expert in all this, but why would you choose to pull the more expensive 3200 film down to 800 instead of just pushing the 400 up one stop?