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New Motion Picture film: Eastman Kodak VERITA 200D Color Negative Film 5206/7206

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how similar the overall sensitivity of the layers are
Not really. Overlay the HD curves. Totally different shape. I'll grant you that the slope could be different due to the C41/ECN-2 difference. But how do you explain that the formation of a different dye would alter the HD curve shape, not overall slope?

Also, if you squint a little, the curve looks kind of similar to Fuji Superia 400 as well. Not a Kodak stock, but original Fuji product. Does that mean this new Kodak film is probably cold-stored leftover rolls of Fuji product that Kodak has cut into 400ft rolls?

Rumors are easy to start & feed. What purpose do they serve?
 
Not really. Overlay the HD curves. Totally different shape. I'll grant you that the slope could be different due to the C41/ECN-2 difference. But how do you explain that the formation of a different dye would alter the HD curve shape, not overall slope?

Also, if you squint a little, the curve looks kind of similar to Fuji Superia 400 as well. Not a Kodak stock, but original Fuji product. Does that mean this new Kodak film is probably cold-stored leftover rolls of Fuji product that Kodak has cut into 400ft rolls?

Rumors are easy to start & feed. What purpose do they serve?

By sensitivity I was referring to the spectral sensitivity in the comment I was responding to, not the H&D curves. The H&D curves are quite different when compared, and you'd expect that when it is a cross processed stock.

And to suggest that I am rumour spreading is naive, it is no big secret that Verita 200D is Portra 400 adapted to motion by adding AHU and coating on acetate.
Euphoria Season 3 ep 1, now out, mentions being shot on Vision and Portra in the end credits.
 
How different are the spectral sensitivities of several CN films, even across brands? The differences in peaks & valleys are often quite subtle - but still there. What is a significant difference, and what is marginal?

For now, there's no official statement from Kodak that Verita = Portra, and thus, it's a rumor. It may have truth to it, but we don't know. There's some circumstantial evidence, but it's all open to interpretation and quite indirect. An experiment like the one suggested by @brbo could bring some clarity to the matter, but I have doubts we will see anything performed and published that really allows for firm conclusions (i.e. going beyond a few example scans of random scenes).
 
And to suggest that I am rumour spreading is naive, it is no big secret that Verita 200D is Portra 400 adapted to motion by adding AHU and coating on acetate.

Portra (and all other still colour negative films) already has anti-halation layer and have until recently been coated on acetate base... so no adaptation needed.

It would not be completely out of this world for Kodak to just make Portra available in movie formats. Is that really the case is a question that probably won't be answered until Verita trickles into 3rd party "reseller" channels and we can shoot/process/scan Verita and Portra side-by-side. Since cine films need to be cheaper than still photography films, it's not really that odd that Kodak would sell Portra under a different name in cine formats. It obviously won't deter more adventurous still photographers from using cheaper Verita (might not even be cheaper when respoolers add their costs and margins), but for most people Portra will still be the "king/queen" and perceived as worthy of a price premium. Which is something that Kodak would definitely want.

Now, if Verita is in fact a brand new emulsion, the prominent cross that even Kodak says needs to be corrected in post is a pretty interesting thing. Why would Kodak intentionally design such an emulsion?
 
Not really. Overlay the HD curves. Totally different shape. I'll grant you that the slope could be different due to the C41/ECN-2 difference. But how do you explain that the formation of a different dye would alter the HD curve shape, not overall slope?

Also, if you squint a little, the curve looks kind of similar to Fuji Superia 400 as well. Not a Kodak stock, but original Fuji product. Does that mean this new Kodak film is probably cold-stored leftover rolls of Fuji product that Kodak has cut into 400ft rolls?

Rumors are easy to start & feed. What purpose do they serve?

It may be that the starting point was a C-41 emulsion set that then had CD-3 couplers dispersed into it, or it borrowed other components from the still product line. Or it may simply have started as an attempt to juggle an extant product into something different by playing with the emulsions and undercuts. The relationship to Portra or whatever may be no more than a mood board.

The speed will have been determined by what the streaming services' encoding can handle (Colour Neg over ISO 250-ish tends to show up how poor their bit-rate really is) and that an EV 8 lighting environment will comfortably hold T2.8 (which has become a very common aperture choice). LED generally also has a couple of stops advantage over HMI in terms of equivalent output, which is important if you're running generators to deliver the required amperage, especially at today's fuel costs.

The scanning warning is in large part going to be because after nearly 2 decades of Vision 3, extracting information from the very linear upper reaches of the neg to fix things in post (especially on something time constrained and with maximised numbers of set ups per day like a TV/ streaming show) will have become quite habitual. It won't matter as much for those going fully photochemical because those areas simply aren't really going to be accessed, and the straight line section of the neg is the important bit.

As for cross-over, the curves don't indicate that, but people tend to forget that the teal-and-orange look originated from the cross-over (and trying to correct it back in prints) of one of the 1970's neg stocks (the last ECN one I think, back when there was realistically just one choice of top quality cinema colour neg stock worldwide, at the dizzying speed of 100T) when pushed a stop. And until the 1990s it tends to be forgotten that colour neg in general tended to offer either no casts but not great saturation, or good saturation and a bit of a (hopefully pleasing) colour cast. In the same vein, Kodachrome produces technically terrible rendering of some colours, but some people found it pleasing.

As it is, I think some people are wanting to make wild claims about the origins of the new emulsion so that they can pass it off to the unsuspecting as cheap Portra.
 
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