New Kodak Film in 2021?

[Minoltafan2904]

Some random guy on Reddit says he has sources saying they will both be E6 films, hasn't linked or cited any though lol

 

[Ernst-Jan]

Some random guy on Reddit says he has sources saying they will both be E6 films, hasn't linked or cited any though lol

Some random guys also say Corona is just a flue and the earth is flat...

 

[perkeleellinen]

Might not even be new films - the Kodak rep just said "new additions to our portfolio". It might be cut RA4 paper or a new scanner.

 

[Lachlan Young]

Some random guy on Reddit says he has sources saying they will both be E6 films, hasn't linked or cited any though lol

A new E100VS and E200 are plausible. E200 offers a significant level of pushability too.

 

[Agulliver]

I think that most people using 120 *are* amateurs....people don't want to load their Holgas, DIanas and recently obtained 6x6 folders or 6x9's with Portra or Ektar. The retailers I talk with are usually shifting lots of Fuji 400H in 120 to people who are using these types of cameras....because it's the nearest thing to a "standard" colour film and often cheaper than the Kodak films. Gold 200 or something similar would be a big seller in 120. I really don't like Gold and would stick to the Lomography branded films but I know plenty of people who'd jump with joy if Gold 200 were around in 120 format.

Sure, I do see people about with Hassies and recent Fuji 6x7 cameras but it's not 1995 any more. Wedding, fashion and advertising shooters are not burning through 120 film any more.

 

[K25]

According to the interview no C-41 or B&W film. But then again let's look form the business perspective. Massive overkill on the market of B&W stock. The C-41 situation is identical. Leaving E-6 to be the only realistic option. I doubt K system will be re-introduced but a reintroduction of Kodachrome, most likely 25 ASA as E-6 highly likely. Kodachrome II or later 25 was the film back in the day! Now, regarding something new - as really new, never seen before in hands of Kodak, two options only come to my mind: 400 ASA E-6 or some new out of box type of E-6 film but i doubt the last idea.

I'd bet on
re-introduction of Kodachrome 25 (only in 135) and probably Ektachrome Plus as 400 (in 120 and 135)

 

[Cholentpot]

So if it's Kodachrome III in E-6 do I win a prize?

 

[Lachlan Young]

There are lengthy threads about how an E-6 technology film that looks like Kodachrome could be made, but it would involve CD-6 developer/ couplers and modified processing.

Unlikely.

 

[BrianShaw]

So if it's Kodachrome III in E-6 do I win a prize?

Be careful what you ask for... it could be a booby prize. (For our non-native-English speaking members... that has nothing to do with female anatomy.)

 

[K25]

I doubt Kodak is after to re-produce the exact same look of Kodachrome. However Kodachrome is too important brand to be just like that flushed and lost in past. I'd bet £10.000 on the re-introduction of (according to the new age) well saturated Kodachrome 25 ASA as E-6. The guy from Alaris made it clear; no PX 125 because the (new) T-Max 100 is our substitute for it. When the other guy asked about "consumer friendly" 120 C-41, the answer was something along the line: cute idea, how about crochet that and send it to Kodak.

Film back in the 80's use to cost more. £7 then = about 10-12 pints of beer. Now £15 tops 2 pints.

 

[Kodachromeguy]

Medium Format shooters aren't going to flock to Kodak Gold 200, it's an amateur film.

What does that mean?

 

[K25]

What does that mean?

Point-n-shoot film type. Nothing special. Medium format gear is too pricey. Using Hasselblad to load Kodak Gold 200 is like going to McDonald's for a salad bowl.

 

[Cholentpot]

There are lengthy threads about how an E-6 technology film that looks like Kodachrome could be made, but it would involve CD-6 developer/ couplers and modified processing.

Unlikely.

The people using film now could care less how the film is formulated. Kodak could take a B&W film, slap Kodachrome on it and it would sell like hotcakes.

I'm sticking to my guns and saying E-6 Kodachrome III. I'll even say it'll be Ektachrome just relabeled as Kodachrome 64.

 

[eddie]

I think that most people using 120 *are* amateurs....

This may be true, but they're serious amateurs. There are easier ways to make photographs, these days, than on film. Quality of film emulsions matters to them.

 

[Cholentpot]

Point-n-shoot film type. Nothing special. Medium format gear is too pricey. Using Hasselblad to load Kodak Gold 200 is like going to McDonald's for a salad bowl.

At least the camera is getting used.

 

[Minoltafan2904]

I'm really hoping for a faster slide film, a new Ektachrome 400 would be nice, since i shoot mainly slide film.
I miss my Provia 400X, a lot...

 

[Minoltafan2904]

But i think any new film being released is good news, regardless, it's indicative that the film industry is alive and kicking and that manufacturers believe in its future and profitability.
If this weren't the case we wouldn't even be hearing any possibility of new films or reviving discontinued stocks.

 

[K25]

The people using film now could care less how the film is formulated. Kodak could take a B&W film, slap Kodachrome on it and it would sell like hotcakes.

I'm sticking to my guns and saying E-6 Kodachrome III. I'll even say it'll be Ektachrome just relabeled as Kodachrome 64.

The Kodachrome 25 had much finer grain, was sharper -probably the sharpest film ever- and had better colours than the 64. Simply 25 blows 64 out of the water.

 

[wyofilm]

Provia 400X

This was a great film.

 

[Minoltafan2904]

The Kodachrome 25 had much finer grain, was sharper -probably the sharpest film ever- and had better colours than the 64. Simply 25 blows 64 out of the water.

K25 was extremely sharp indeed.
Though compared to Velvia 50 in my opinion they are nearly identical, ( in terms of sharpness ) otherwise they are completely different.

 

[Minoltafan2904]

This was a great film.

More than great, simply amazing.
Provia 400X had an RMS granularity of 11 if i remember correctly? the same as Kodachrome 64!

It also pushed effortlessly to 800 and i even shot a roll at 1600 on a heavily overcast day and it looked more than decent.

That's why i say if Kodak can come up with a new Ektachrome 400 that is fine grained and sharp like Provia 400X, i'm in all the way.

 

[K25]

K25 was extremely sharp indeed.
Though compared to Velvia 50 in my opinion they are nearly identical, ( in terms of sharpness ) otherwise they are completely different.

True, Velvia 50 was introduced in 1990 and quickly became a "must try" film, giving K25 some harsh competition. But that being said, the present edition of Velvia 50 is too cartoonish in respect of colour reproduction.

 

[dutchsteammachine]

25 iso film would be nice but I think a 400 speed film would open new possibilities with slide film... I think that is most critical when expanding your portfolio.

Offer a range of films that allow for use in the broadest range of conditions. Not just in the heat of summer with f1.4

 

[Cholentpot]

The Kodachrome 25 had much finer grain, was sharper -probably the sharpest film ever- and had better colours than the 64. Simply 25 blows 64 out of the water.

K25 was extremely sharp indeed.
Though compared to Velvia 50 in my opinion they are nearly identical, ( in terms of sharpness ) otherwise they are completely different.

True, Velvia 50 was introduced in 1990 and quickly became a "must try" film, giving K25 some harsh competition. But that being said, the present edition of Velvia 50 is too cartoonish in respect of colour reproduction.

Again.

This is about marketing. The people who are paying $200 for a Olympus MJUII don't care about the technicalities of the film. To quote my bubblegum snapping teenage cousin from 1991 'Is that fuji? It's like ick.'

Kodak can put anything out with Kodachrome on the can and it'll sell. They can call it iKodachrome 2.0G mk.8 9mm and people would love it.

 

[Sirius Glass]

There's a real market for a real infrared film. The Ilford offering has near infrared but it's not something that peaks in the 820-850 nm range.

Kodachrome is a incredibly valuable brand. A icon. There's no reason that E6 films can't be formulated to have the Kodachrome look.

I suppose it would be possible to resurrect "real Kodachrome" I don't think it's necessary, just make a transparency film that looks like Ektar and call it Kodachrome III.

There's plenty of 125 speed neg film, FP4 Plus and TMX work for me.

HIE makes the most sense because no one else has anything like it..

Medium Format shooters aren't going to flock to Kodak Gold 200, it's an amateur film.

The best that is available today is the Rollei IR 400 in 135 and 120 which I use with R25, R29 or 720 filters.