New Kodak Film in 2021?

[Sirius Glass]

I would like Kodak UltraColor and Kodak VividColor to come back in 135 and 120. Generally I do not think about what might come, I prefer to keep my sanity.

 

[halfaman]

Can't say I'd agree on the return of VC films - I think Ektar does the same sort of thing better.

If Fuji want to reintroduce anything, they could bring back a 120 format Superia. Never been terribly keen on their pro neg films - they try too hard to be 'neutral' under too many conditions, & then distort certain specific colours in ways that take more effort to correct.

Something relatively easy to re-manufacture, but probably way too low market demand (unless Adox are feeling particularly quixotic) would be a Pan-Matrix film for dye transfer prints from colour negs.

It is clear that we have very different tastes on color films. Ektar is by no means an honorable substitute of Portra 160NC for me, I tried it twice and I gave up. Seems to work well only in very particular conditions, for the rest I get unreal tones and saturation that never happen with any Portra film. Not my cup of tea.

but I miss the saturation of Porta 160 VC and the soft touch of 400 VC.

Just fot the records, I tried to say Portra 400 NC.

 

[miha]

Please make El Cheapo 4x5 colour film. I can hardly justify 5€ per sheet.

 

[eddie]

Generally I do not think about what might come, I prefer to keep my sanity.

Have we ever been correct in guessing a newly announced product?

 

[Cholentpot]

Ektar 25.

I shot an old roll from my freezer over the summer. That stuff was pretty good it looks like.

 

[wyofilm]

Have we ever been correct in guessing a newly announced product?

No, but we aren't quitters!

A 1600 speed color? Fill the space left be Fuji?

 

[Prest_400]

My personal wish would be for 100 foot rolls of Color Plus 35mm at a reasonable price....but that's almost as unlikely as Kodachrome. So I am going to predict that the "reintroduced" product is either Gold in 120 or Plus-X across a range of formats. The "new" film could be P3200 in 120.

Exciting times when Kodak are even considering something new. We did get Ektachrome and P3200 back....when both seemed lost causes.

I forgot on my last post that those two candidates are quite plausible. Not so many years ago (Up until 2014?) Kodak sold "Ektacolor 160" in 120. What it actually was, no idea, but it seemed to be an analog of Colorplus-Proimage in 120. I only recall seeing it on ebay for select markets in the tropics. If that is new, not really but it is more of a consumer level product and it surely was manufactured in B38.

 

[eddie]

No, but we aren't quitters!

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Have we ever been correct in guessing a newly announced product?

Never! We've been miles off, especially me!

 

[eddie]

Never! We've been miles off, especially me!

We've probably hoped for some of the same things.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

We've probably hoped for some of the same things.

Probably!

 

[Sirius Glass]

Never! We've been miles off, especially me!

For starters:

• Kodachrome is too complex, hard to develop, and very obsolete
• Both HIE and Ektachrome IR were financed by the Defense Department as a National Treasure to that it would be available for the Intelligence Community.

 

[MattKing]

For starters:

• Kodachrome is too complex, hard to develop, and very obsolete
• Both HIE and Ektachrome IR were financed by the Defense Department as a National Treasure to that it would be available for the Intelligence Community.

I'm bookmarking this post, so I can gloat if it turns out to be HIE .

 

[Sirius Glass]

I'm bookmarking this post, so I can gloat if it turns out to be HIE .

So will I. I am down to two rolls.

 

[Cholentpot]

So will I. I am down to two rolls.

My vote is Plus-X and something color in 120.

 

[Lachlan Young]

It is clear that we have very different tastes on color films. Ektar is by no means an honorable substitute of Portra 160NC for me, I tried it twice and I gave up. Seems to work well only in very particular conditions, for the rest I get unreal tones and saturation that never happen with any Portra film. Not my cup of tea.


Just fot the records, I tried to say Portra 400 NC.

Ah, OK, yes, the current Portras have perhaps a hair more colour contrast (different from overall contrast) than the old NC's - even the current 160, which is supposed to be closer to the old NC.

 

[wyofilm]

I'm bookmarking this post, so I can gloat if it turns out to be HIE .

It's the film I'm pulling for.

By the way, I assume Kodak had many film stocks nearly or even fully developed at the time of the dreaded digital revolution, but were never released. Any chance, we will see something completely new?

 

[wyofilm]

BW400CN?

Not that I'm looking for this.

Does Ilford's XP2 super 400 sell well?
Kodak/KA wasn't afraid to release a direct competition film with P3200.

 

[Lachlan Young]

BW400CN?

Not that I'm looking for this.

Does Ilford's XP2 super 400 sell well?
Kodak/KA wasn't afraid to release a direct competition film with P3200.

They'd need to sort the orange mask issue - Ilford made the decision to maximise XP2's compatibility with BW papers and that is probably what's helped XP2 stick around.

 

[wyofilm]

They'd need to sort the orange mask issue - Ilford made the decision to maximise XP2's compatibility with BW papers and that is probably what's helped XP2 stick around.

Yes, you are right.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I'm bookmarking this post, so I can gloat if it turns out to be HIE .

Me too!

 

[mshchem]

There's a real market for a real infrared film. The Ilford offering has near infrared but it's not something that peaks in the 820-850 nm range.

Kodachrome is a incredibly valuable brand. A icon. There's no reason that E6 films can't be formulated to have the Kodachrome look.

I suppose it would be possible to resurrect "real Kodachrome" I don't think it's necessary, just make a transparency film that looks like Ektar and call it Kodachrome III.

There's plenty of 125 speed neg film, FP4 Plus and TMX work for me.

HIE makes the most sense because no one else has anything like it..

Medium Format shooters aren't going to flock to Kodak Gold 200, it's an amateur film.

 

[Ernst-Jan]

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I really miss more some Fuji color films than any of Kodak, like Reala (my most desired come back film) or 400X (best slide film ever for me).

That would even be greater than any Kodak film indeed

 

[Ernst-Jan]

Medium Format shooters aren't going to flock to Kodak Gold 200, it's an amateur film.

Most film shooters are amateurs I think.
Look how many people put Kodak Gold or Fuji C200 in their Leica M6

 

[p81]

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Medium Format shooters aren't going to flock to Kodak Gold 200, it's an amateur film.

:-D

I shoot MF most of the time, I’m amateur and I would of course go for Gold in MF.
I like it in 35mm as well, it’s the cheapest film around at the moment.
So why not?
And is an amateur film not allowed to shoot in MF-cameras?

On economical side it would be the cheapest for Kodak to bring it to the market, it is another format only. Gold is in 35mm available in big amounts.

But we’ll see.