New ISO 400 "Fugufilm" slide film

[ricardo12458]

https://www.japancamerahunter.com/2022/03/film-news-fugufilm-400-official-announcement/

pretty excited about this, in spite of the current teething problems with getting colour/white balance right (from the samples posted in same)

 

[Marcelo Paniagua]

Seems encouraging. Haven't used slide film for a while (over a decade) but this one seems like a good candidate. Will follow closely.

Marcelo

 

[halfaman]

It reminds me a color negative cross-processed in E6...

 

[Marcelo Paniagua]

It reminds me a color negative cross-processed in E6...

Yeah but seems they are still adjusting color. Waitinf for final version.

Marcelo

 

[AgX]

So "Horatio Tan at Street Silhouttes and Bellamy at Japan Camera Hunter" together on there own in three years work manufactured a completely new, ISO 400 reversal film.

 

[pentaxuser]

So "Horatio Tan at Street Silhouttes and Bellamy at Japan Camera Hunter" together on there own in three years work manufactured a completely new, ISO 400 reversal film.

Yes, welcome to the new world of film where nothing is as it seems

2 men in what I presume is a small factory or very large garden shed fully equipped for colour reversal have made a brand new film and are now on the last iteration immediately prior to release They have needed no kick starter funding so they have borrowed a great deal of money from some lending institution( bank, venture capitalist, yakuza?) or are independently wealthy?

Makes Ferrania look like a bunch of slackers, surely and even Mirko and his factory plus collective photo engineers will be hard pressed to match 3 years

I think we can all agree this is an incredible story. However each of us might have slightly different views on how the word incredible might be applied here

pentaxuser

 

[GabrielC]

On the KosmoFoto article said it was made in the EU, I don't see any other actor than Inoviscoat that could make this in the EU, I guess ?

Any way, however they managed, really great news, I love slide and I started film after provia 400x demise. I'm looking forward to it

 

[AgX]

I don't see any other actor than Inoviscoat that could make this in the EU, I guess ?

Inoviscoat is still in receivership, they can't even decide on own matters.

 

[Marcelo Paniagua]

I supppose they are working with a company that already has the equipment/expertise and they are doing the design/color palette thing? Probably Ilford/Harman? They design the film and the company produce it for them. Thats the only thing I can imagine.

Marcelo

 

[MattKing]

threads merged

 

[DREW WILEY]

Looks like something targeted to amateur "fun" user, probably outsourced. By contrast, Kodak E100 is serious stuff, and available in multiple formats. Still have my slide projector. The younger generation who has never seen a real slide show would probably be shocked just how much more impressive those can look compared to a computer screen presentation.

 

[Paul Howell]

How about Polaroid, could they coat 35mm?

 

[Joe VanCleave]

Hmm, it's a week away from April 1st. In the meantime I'll watch this thread for entertainment!

 

[Alex Benjamin]

https://www.japancamerahunter.com/2022/03/film-news-fugufilm-400-official-announcement/

pretty excited about this, in spite of the current teething problems with getting colour/white balance right (from the samples posted in same)

Serious question: what am I supposed to be excited about? Colors are terrible—I mean, really terrible—, I have no idea what the price will be, how available it will be, etc.

Maybe it's a question of age, but I'm totally insensitive to this manner of "creating a buzz" by announcing an unfinished, imperfect product.

 

[gone]

An unfortunate name for the film in English, it really doesn't give you a clue. And fugu could be seen in many colorful ways (mostly just one). It just begs for, fu gu! And your camera too.

 

[DREW WILEY]

Fugu is a Japanese delicacy - a kind of puffer fish which if not prepared exactly right, is fatally toxic. Maybe that's what they're implying : the coloration can kill you.

 

[flavio81]

https://www.japancamerahunter.com/2022/03/film-news-fugufilm-400-official-announcement/

pretty excited about this, in spite of the current teething problems with getting colour/white balance right (from the samples posted in same)

The announcement says:

"FuguFilm 400 is, we believe, the first completely new reversal film emulsion in nearly two decades.(...)
Let us be clear, this is not an old storage roll pulled from the fabled Fuji freezer, or expired film, this is a completely new emulsion from the ground up"

The pictures look like halfway between "cross-processed negative film, developed as slide" and "badly kept Aviphot 200 with its horrible tendency to yellow out everything"

If the film has a clear base, my cynical self says that this is an old emulsion formula, perhaps ordered to be coated again.

 

[flavio81]

Yes, welcome to the new world of film where nothing is as it seems

2 men in what I presume is a small factory or very large garden shed fully equipped for colour reversal have made a brand new film and are now on the last iteration immediately prior to release They have needed no kick starter funding so they have borrowed a great deal of money from some lending institution( bank, venture capitalist, yakuza?) or are independently wealthy?

Makes Ferrania look like a bunch of slackers, surely and even Mirko and his factory plus collective photo engineers will be hard pressed to match 3 years

I think the guys at Ferrania, when told up "let's make slide film", were not thinking of "let's make slide film with really, really crappy colors".

 

[pentaxuser]

I supppose they are working with a company that already has the equipment/expertise and they are doing the design/color palette thing? Probably Ilford/Harman? They design the film and the company produce it for them. Thats the only thing I can imagine.

Marcelo

I thought that Ilford /Harman's expertise was only in b&w so on that basis isn't Ilford/ Harman an unlikely partner?

pentaxuser

 

[flavio81]

I thought that Ilford /Harman's expertise was only in b&w so on that basis isn't Ilford/ Harman an unlikely partner?

pentaxuser

Harman probably can do the conversion and cutting.

Btw, there's no way this film was made by two guys working quietly on a garage lab. I believe almost zero of that marketing blurb.

 

[pentaxuser]

I think the guys at Ferrania, when told up "let's make slide film", were not thinking of "let's make slide film with really, really crappy colors".

Well let's be fair here. Isn't it truly marvellous that 2 men whose pedigree in photo engineering is unknown to me can produce a reversal film with any colours at all?

pentaxuser

 

[pentaxuser]

Harman probably can do the conversion and cutting.

Btw, there's no way this film was made by two guys working quietly on a garage lab. I believe almost zero of that marketing blurb.

Well that terrible if what they wrote was marketing blurb. Have you used the correct phrase? On the basis that this is marketing blurb can you say how this differs from Bernie Madoff's marketing blurb

pentaxuser

 

[Nodda Duma]

Likely factory is Orwo.
They said they need to balance the colors, but announced they are working on it now due to timing related to the other two big new releases recently.

I’ll withhold judgement until the colors are closer to done. I’ve seen the performance of preliminary design hardware that worked like shit but were eventually successful…all in full view of the customer.

 

[MattKing]

Btw, there's no way this film was made by two guys working quietly on a garage lab. I believe almost zero of that marketing blurb.

With great trepidation: Mannes and Godowsky.

 

[cmacd123]

With great trepidation: Mannes and Godowsky.

although they had a lot of encouragement