New Ilford film being Introduced

[Kino]

Flexible daguerreotypes; "Delta Dags"...

 

[Andrew Forrester]

taken from the FB

 

[James Bleifus]

I’d love a 120 400 speed film with the tonality of FP4.

 

[Jerevan]

The Platinachrome seems to be something digital - on the japanese (!) Ilford website there is mentions of "Digitalfilm 140". My japanese is non-existent, but perhaps it is some sort of platinum print kit for the digi-crowd? The A4 size designation on the box in the post above is an indication in that direction, I think.

 

[mshchem]

The Platinachrome seems to be something digital - on the japanese (!) Ilford website there is mentions of "Digitalfilm 140". My japanese is non-existent, but perhaps it is some sort of platinum print kit for the digi-crowd? The A4 size designation on the box in the post above is an indication in that direction, I think.

I agree this doesn't make sense to be from Harmon.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

The Platinachrome seems to be something digital - on the japanese (!) Ilford website there is mentions of "Digitalfilm 140". My japanese is non-existent, but perhaps it is some sort of platinum print kit for the digi-crowd? The A4 size designation on the box in the post above is an indication in that direction, I think.

A4 doesn't necessarily mean for digital. I used to buy Fuji B/W darkroom paper when I lived there that was A4. Can you give us a link to the Japan Ilford site, please? Thanks.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Can't really tell what this 'Platinachrome' material is. Doesn't seem like a core Harman product, unless a pt/pd paper for contact prints?

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

From what I could gather, the Platina Chrome is just plain, uncoated paper... like Washi.... for alt processes.

 

[Lachlan Young]

From what I could gather, the Platina Chrome is just plain, uncoated paper... like Washi.... for alt processes.

Are you quite sure it isn't from the totally separate company who make the 'Ilford' branded inkjet materials after taking over from the Marly plant?

 

[Oren Grad]

Are you quite sure it isn't from the totally separate company who make the 'Ilford' branded inkjet materials after taking over from the Marly plant?

Lachlan, you are correct - here's the Google-translated Japanese web page:

https://translate.googleusercontent...700271&usg=ALkJrhgdlhiRkRmYmpkKoSbms2hR7bQDEg

 

[AgX]

The Platinachrome seems to be something digital - on the japanese (!) Ilford website there is mentions of "Digitalfilm 140". My japanese is non-existent, but perhaps it is some sort of platinum print kit for the digi-crowd? The A4 size designation on the box in the post above is an indication in that direction, I think.

The Ilford brand has been taken over after the collapse of Ilford Imaging by two investors. One of them a japanesse firm from the photochemical world. By a subsidiary they are/were offering this ink-jet paper.

 

[Oren Grad]

As can be seen from the link I just posted, the Platinachrome paper is intended for Pt/Pd, not inkjet, and the "Digital 140 film" is for making inkjet internegatives for Pt/Pd printing.

 

[Bob Carnie]

They are trying to get into the alternative world.. this is actually very good news for us printmakers.

 

[AgX]

I stand corrected, it is no ink-jet paper, but a uncoated paper. In any case no halide paper.

No Bob, they are not.

That Platinachrome paper is from the japanese source I mentioned above, not by IlfordPhoto. To my understanding Harman may not even use the Ilford brand for such product.

 

[Oren Grad]

They are trying to get into the alternative world.. this is actually very good news for us printmakers.

Bob, this is not Harman Technology / Ilford Photo. It's the other Ilford company that focuses on inkjet papers. And this product line is apparently announced only in Japan - there is no mention of it on the main (European) ilford.com website.

 

[BrianShaw]

A4 doesn't necessarily mean for digital. I used to buy Fuji B/W darkroom paper when I lived there that was A4. Can you give us a link to the Japan Ilford site, please? Thanks.

A4 is just a paper size, is it not?

 

[AgX]

It is the DIN/ISO paper size. The standard german letter size.

 

[wyofilm]

Bob, this is not Harman Technology / Ilford Photo. It's the other Ilford company that focuses on inkjet papers. And this product line is apparently announced only in Japan - there is no mention of it on the main (European) ilford.com website.

Too bad, the products look like a nice way for beginners to get started. It would be nice if the products were more universal.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

A4 is just a paper size, is it not?

Yes.

 

[AgX]

It's the other Ilford company that focuses on inkjet papers. And this product line is apparently announced only in Japan - there is no mention of it on the main (European) ilford.com website.

The other Ilford company by now is only brand used by another manufacturer.
That Platinachrome paper is said to be have been presented already at last year Photokina, but still all information is in Japanese only...

 

[Oren Grad]

The other Ilford company by now is only brand used by another manufacturer.

Yes, the Ilford inkjet paper company went bankrupt again, didn't they? I lost track of what happened after that - I take it the rights to the brand name were sold as part of winding down the enterprise?

 

[AgX]

Ilford Imaging made halide as well as ink-jet products. Maybe you remember their range of silver-dye-bleach materials. Their last capital holding firm let them go bancrupt and collapse. It only survived as entity of intellectual property around the Ilford brand. This is exploited for own products as well as for licensing to the resp. names for halide products to Harman.

 

[Agulliver]

I have a partner in photography who is fluent in Japanese, if that helps with translation?

 

[Oren Grad]

Ilford Imaging made halide as well as ink-jet products. Maybe you remember their range of silver-dye-bleach materials.

Yes, of course - they retained the Cibachrome/Ilfochrome product line at the time of the initial Ilford break-up in 2004-5. Note to everyone else: don't get excited, the Ilfochrome products for printing from color transparencies were discontinued several years ago, the current "Ilforchrome" branded products are just metallic panels for inkjet printing.

 

[pentaxuser]

I am confused further now. Let me say why: In 2008 I went on the last Ilford factory tour that members of APUG were invited to go on. At the end of that tour we were given samples of Harman Inkjet paper. The packs were actually called Harman Professional PhotoInkjet and on the back was Harman Technology with the Mobberley address. The paper was A4

So at that stage (2008) Harman and its factory at Mobberley appeared as the source of this Inkjet Baryta paper

What if any connection does the paper mentioned above have with Ilford Imaging? I think the answer is none based on what has been said i.e. this stuff is still digital inkjet but is not part of the Harman/Pemberstone range? However is it the case that Harman now taken over by Pemberstone still make inkjet paper and does this production still take place at Mobberley ?

Thanks

pentaxuser