New film - Rollei RPX 25

[AgX]

Ricardo, you assume that each film has an primary coding. But this is not the case.

Furthermore, Maco gave in the past contradictory information on specific films, even made up a datasheet.
Why do you expect them now to hand out a cartridge that gives most truthful information?

 

[Ricardo Miranda]

AgX:
No, the DX code only points to the FACTORY where it is made. By its nature, each film has its own DX code. But, that doesn't mean it is different Emulsions.
If the DX code pointed to a Harman made emulsion, we can assume it is a different film from anything else in the market as Harman doesn't use the same emulsion for different films.
You can buy an actualised list of DX codes from I3A and find out whose manufacturer is assigned Part 1 of 189.

Why do you expect them now to hand out a cartridge that gives most truthful information?

Because they would be in breach of the DX code conventions. Remember that Part 1, i.e. the manufacture code is assigned by I3A.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DX_number

 

[AgX]

Because they would be in breach of the DX code conventions. Remember that Part 1, i.e. the manufacture code is assigned by I3A.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DX_number

They broke the convention of honesty.

 

[Regular Rod]

Does it really matter whether this is a new film or an old film in new clothes? All that matters surely is whether it is a good film that we can use when we want a slow speed and fine grain. So far so good. It would be nice to get it in sheet sizes too, 4x5, 8x10 and 6½x8½ would be a fine start...

RR

 

[jim appleyard]

Does it really matter whether this is a new film or an old film in new clothes?
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I think it matters. I'd rather not spend good money on film that I know little about. Maybe it is a new emulsion. Maybe it's Efke 25. If that's the case, why bother as the pipleline will run dry shortly. If it's Pan-F, why should I pay an inflated price for the Rollei brand?

 

[Ricardo Miranda]

I think it matters. I'd rather not spend good money on film that I know little about. Maybe it is a new emulsion. Maybe it's Efke 25. If that's the case, why bother as the pipleline will run dry shortly. If it's Pan-F, why should I pay an inflated price for the Rollei brand?

Please, think twice before posting! How can it be EFKE, when the factory has been closed for over an year? And, how can it be PanF, when Harman will not use the same emulsion for other films?
It is a new emulsion, and the fact the DX code is new only confirms it. Besides the expiry date is set for 4 years from now. It goes with the Harman normal life span for its emulsions of 4 to 5 years.
And RegularRod already proved it a few pages back.

Please, stop with rumours and other insinuations that are bore of ignorance, not facts.

 

[Roger Cole]

I suppose it COULD have been left over Efke 25, but at this point it clearly is not.

It could be based on Pan F+ but now that user reports are in is also clearly different. So again, whatever it is seems new.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

I suppose it COULD have been left over Efke 25, but at this point it clearly is not.

It could be based on Pan F+ but now that user reports are in is also clearly different. So again, whatever it is seems new.

It's easy to see if it was Efke 25. Just shoot a color chart. The film is orthopanchromatic, and has lowered red sensitivity. A side by side comparison with RPX 25 would quickly show the difference.

 

[jim appleyard]

Please, think twice before posting! How can it be EFKE, when the factory has been closed for over an year? And, how can it be PanF, when Harman will not use the same emulsion for other films?
It is a new emulsion, and the fact the DX code is new only confirms it. Besides the expiry date is set for 4 years from now. It goes with the Harman normal life span for its emulsions of 4 to 5 years.
And RegularRod already proved it a few pages back.

Please, stop with rumours and other insinuations that are bore of ignorance, not facts.

Hello! I do think before posting!!! Maybe you should, too! It very well vould be Efke. Look at all the Agfa that was made before they closed and is still around!

Rod hasn't proven anything, only that it isn't a document film. Nothing against Rod here.

I'm asking questions because we really don't know.

 

[Regular Rod]

I think it matters. I'd rather not spend good money on film that I know little about. Maybe it is a new emulsion. Maybe it's Efke 25. If that's the case, why bother as the pipleline will run dry shortly. If it's Pan-F, why should I pay an inflated price for the Rollei brand?

???


£3.32 per roll of 120 Rollei RPX 25
£3.69 per roll of 120 PAN F Plus

RR

 

[Regular Rod]

Jim I'm fine with you being careful and wanting to know as much as possible. No offence taken at all.

I really like this film and will use it again and buy it again. I will still use PAN F Plus and FP4 Plus and HP5 Plus as they and their predecessors are films I've used for years and feel comfortable with. I used to love CHS 25 Art and have sought a fine grain, slow film with a big tonal range since it was dropped from the market so when RPX 25 was announced I ordered some immediately, quite prepared to write off the cost if the film was a disappointment. Luckily for me the search is over (for 120). I still want it in 4x5, 8x10 and 6½x8½ sheets...


RR

 

[Ricardo Miranda]

Jim, as far I as know, there were no master rolls left when Fotokemika closed its doors, unlike what happened to the Leverkusen factory. The factory was closed when they were preparing to coat new batches.

 

[ath]

Personally I think it is always important to know if it is a new film or just another name for an existing one.
If one searches for a 25 ASA film and hasn't found one he likes it makes the difference between wasting time and money or not.
If it is just a new name it might add better price, additional sizes, better availability and experience.
The same is valid for paper.

 

[Regular Rod]

Personally I think it is always important to know if it is a new film or just another name for an existing one.
If one searches for a 25 ASA film and hasn't found one he likes it makes the difference between wasting time and money or not.
If it is just a new name it might add better price, additional sizes, better availability and experience.
The same is valid for paper.

What other 25 ISO panchromatic film is there currently available that is not old stock? If we want 25 ISO that is not a document film then this is it at the moment...

RR

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

What other 25 ISO panchromatic film is there currently available that is not old stock? If we want 25 ISO that is not a document film then this is it at the moment...

RR

And it is EASY to confirm that is boy Efke by taking a picture of something red. Or use a red filter and see if you get more than a very vague picture.

 

[Henning Serger]

I'm asking questions because we really don't know.

Dear Jim,

nothing wrong with asking questions. Of course we are all curious when new products are offered.
But, well, we do know now. At least those of us, who have already used this film (like me)
Seriously, no, this film has nothing to do at all with the Efke 25 and the former Rollei Pan 25 (first version from FilmoTec; the latest version was Efke 25). Just look at the professional finishing / confectioning of the 120 and the DX coded 35mm film und you will understand. And if you then compare the picture results side by side, you will see immediately the different look, the different results of Efke 25, former Pan 25 and RPX 25.
There is indeed a "new kid in town" .

Best regards,
Henning

 

[miha]

I'm still interested in datasheets.

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

I think it matters. I'd rather not spend good money on film that I know little about. Maybe it is a new emulsion. Maybe it's Efke 25. If that's the case, why bother as the pipleline will run dry shortly. If it's Pan-F, why should I pay an inflated price for the Rollei brand?

Exactly. +1


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[Oscar Carlsson]

Exactly. +1


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Does anyone even read the thread anymore?

Even if it would be rebranded PanF+ (which it is not) it would still be cheaper than PanF+ in the first place!

 

[AgX]

Just look at the professional finishing / confectioning of the 120 and the DX coded 35mm film und you will understand. And if you then compare the picture results side by side, you will see immediately the different look, the different results of Efke 25, former Pan 25 and RPX 25.
There is indeed a "new kid in town.

What bases do these two films have?

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

Does anyone even read the thread anymore?

Even if it would be rebranded PanF+ (which it is not) it would still be cheaper than PanF+ in the first place!

That's not the point. We want to know definitively what it is. And we've been duped too much in the past with misinformation where we've been told it's a new emulsion (or it's heavily implied it is) only to find later it's just a repackaging.


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[Ricardo Miranda]

Henning,
Thank you so much for your informed post. It is always a pleasure to read your posts.
All the best!

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

So Neopan 400 is back?


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[JW PHOTO]

I'm not concerned one way or the other as to whether it's a new film or something slit from a stored, long ago, made film. What I do see as a concern for many folks here is that if it is "new" film it will continue to be manufactured until low demand warrants its demise. With "old stock" the demand is its death wish and folks who get geared up to processing/printing it just end up getting the rug pulled from underneath them and they just have to start all over again. Most of us have been there and done that! Hmmm! Where's my Verichrome Pan or my Plus-X? Get my drift?

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

I'm not concerned one way or the other as to whether it's a new film or something slit from a stored, long ago, made film. What I do see as a concern for many folks here is that if it is "new" film it will continue to be manufactured until low demand warrants its demise. With "old stock" the demand is its death wish and folks who get geared up to processing/printing it just end up getting the rug pulled from underneath them and they just have to start all over again. Most of us have been there and done that! Hmmm! Where's my Verichrome Pan or my Plus-X? Get my drift?

Again, exactly. It's not whether it's PanF+ or not. The post I was responding to was the quote "Does it really matter whether this is a new film or an old film in new clothes?". I do not care either way. I just want to know what it is one way or the other.