Motive, can you give me an idea of the number of rolls of film you shoot in a year? Do you process it yourself or send it out to a lab? What camera(s) and lens(es) do you own?
Why not? We're a consumerist society. Market it well, sell it at the right price and people will buy it.If your question is how to get young people to use film which I want to also but then I really don't have an answer. A new camera isn't the answer in my opinion.
Motive, can you give me an idea of the number of rolls of film you shoot in a year? Do you process it yourself or send it out to a lab? What camera(s) and lens(es) do you own?
Why not? We're a consumerist society. Market it well, sell it at the right price and people will buy it.
But so far nobody including the OP has any idea how the new camera should be, what kind of feature it has to have, let alone making it at the right price.Why not? We're a consumerist society. Market it well, sell it at the right price and people will buy it.
... Before too long, the production of the complex and expensive color emulsions will go the way of Autochrome, lost to history along with the deep practical knowledge base that made them possible. ... Buy and shoot their wonderful films while you still can.
I have made some tentative suggestions earlier on in this thread. But those are the kind of specifics that will have to be addressed systematically. It will involve market research, cost analysis, clear identification of the target market, a marketing and distribution plan, etc. etc. The technical features will have to be decided along with all these business considerations. But the broad concept I'm advocating, is that if there is any hope for a mini film renaissance (and I mean "mini"), we have to look at getting a younger generation interested. And for that we cannot rely on old equipment bought off ebay. Marketing a couple of affordable, user-friendly, decent-quality cameras alongside film surely makes sense. Part of that work has been done by Lomography, but I believe it can and should be taken further. Film photography as a hobby has a lot of appealing aspects in comparison with digital cameras. Discovering that there's more to film than blurry, low contrast images with lots of flare and funky colours could be quite a revelation. And there is of course the coolness factor of using an iconic product like Kodak film along with some modern compact 35mm cameras, perhaps bearing another iconic name like Nikon.But so far nobody including the OP has any idea how the new camera should be, what kind of feature it has to have, let alone making it at the right price.
The OP did say simple but simple like what? Like a fully mechanical, meterless or a fully automatic P&S with auto composition and auto shutter release? Built in selfie feature? LCD viewfinder? Android OS? Cellular, GPS enabled?
No, "an army of stuff" would be extreme. I'm thinking of at most a handful of different types of cameras.
I think it should go beyond lo-fi. That field has been covered by the Holga/Lomo crowd. I'd like to see a younger generation discover the fact that film can actually be a serious photographic medium. By all means START with something as basic as a box camera (or even a pinhole), but also provide the opportunities for those who want take it further.
No thesis necessary. Just some entertaining, interesting and easily digestible info. Let's consider those who want to be more than mindless button-pushers and mouse-clickers. People who want to think just a wee bit about what they're doing.
Of course. You know what I mean. A pinhole camera is also "as real as it gets" and can be a wonderfully creative tool. You have to contextualize what I say.
Wow, the negativity astounds me.
So the box full of inoperable cameras that a friend offered me doesn't exist, and all of those cameras in it actually work perfectly?
In the next 50 years, all those cameras, the ones already broken and not working, will magically continue to work without issue or require servicing? In the next 50 years, all those Hasselblads will continue to function flawlessly with an endless supply of spare parts (which you won't need, because cameras will always function for an infinite amount of time without damage or loss)?
The Mamiya TLR lens with the broken shutter blade, that was quoted at nearly three times what I paid for it for repair, is fine and doesn't need service?
We all know that we are getting old and will die so the future of film depends on the young generation. You say get they young interested but how? Let leave the affordability aside for the moment (it's very important but let leave it aside for the moment). What IS your idea of a user friendly, decent quality camera that would attract the younger generation?I have made some tentative suggestions earlier on in this thread. But those are the kind of specifics that will have to be addressed systematically. It will involve market research, cost analysis, clear identification of the target market, a marketing and distribution plan, etc. etc. The technical features will have to be decided along with all these business considerations. But the broad concept I'm advocating, is that if there is any hope for a mini film renaissance (and I mean "mini"), we have to look at getting a younger generation interested. And for that we cannot rely on old equipment bought off ebay. Marketing a couple of affordable, user-friendly, decent-quality cameras alongside film surely makes sense. Part of that work has been done by Lomography, but I believe it can and should be taken further. Film photography as a hobby has a lot of appealing aspects in comparison with digital cameras. Discovering that there's more to film than blurry, low contrast images with lots of flare and funky colours could be quite a revelation. And there is of course the coolness factor of using an iconic product like Kodak film along with some modern compact 35mm cameras, perhaps bearing another iconic name like Nikon.
now THAT is pretty cool !Not film, but Kodak has produced a new digital camera that prints mini prints https://www.dpreview.com/news/71627...i-shot-10mp-camera-prints-tiny-instant-photos
and is working on a Super 8 film camera that would use Ektachrome, I believe, when its produced.
Hasselblads and Leicas, like a fine timepiece will be operable and repairable for a very long time to come. Electronic stuff not so. I have Nikon F and F2 cameras still going strong, and easy to get repairs.Your problems and your friend's problems are your own problems, not industry problems. I have no problems keeping my cameras in working condition.
+1There are plenty of new large format cameras being made. Look at companies like Shen-Hao, Chamonix and the Intrepid kickstarter. I can't honestly see much of a future for film in 35mm, digital can do it better in that format. Large format is a different animal, people specifically choose LF for the look it gives and I think film will stay strong there.
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Not only is this a really nice blog but this posting is more or less apropos.
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