That just means lack of lubrication, not a broken shutter. Buy it !!
My first Mamiya TLR: a C330f
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That just means lack of lubrication, not a broken shutter. Buy it !!
More exactly the lens needs a CLA.
Come now Ben, don't you recognize a serious case of GAS when you see one? No, our friend Bert is suffering from a bad case of it, and trust me (I suffer it too) he has no choice.
Once I recover from my latest (very very serious) bout of GAS, and have some free money, I too will probably be looking to fill out my Mamiya C330f's lens line up... and its all Berts fault!
I got very lucky last weekend and found a 1957 Mamiya C in mint condition, with 5 lenses, finder, paramender, even 2 sets of original filters in a beautiful leather case. All the lenses had their boxes intact. What a treat to find a kit that had been so lovingly cared for.
The lenses are so close in angle of view that it's a waste of money buying them, I've been shooting for thirty years with the 55,80,135, and 180 lens pairs and never felt I needed anything else, in fact It's a couple of years since I used the 180mm lenses and I could easily manage without it, and as far as his G.A.S. is concerned I'm a photographer not a psychiatrist.Come now Ben, don't you recognize a serious case of GAS when you see one? No, our friend Bert is suffering from a bad case of it, and trust me (I suffer it too) he has no choice.
Once I recover from my latest (very very serious) bout of GAS, and have some free money, I too will probably be looking to fill out my Mamiya C330f's lens line up... and its all Berts fault!
But, but... Ben, that's what a hobby is all about.
One spends unjustifiable time and money in the vain pursuit of a skill that they would otherwise never be able to master well enough to justify charging someone else to perform.
In a vocation, by design the money flows toward you. In an avocation, by design the money flows away from you. In the former, you finish the day exhausted and unhappy, but richer. In the latter, you finish exhausted and smiling, but poorer.
Ken
But, but... Ben, that's what a hobby is all about.
One spends unjustifiable time and money in the vain pursuit of a skill that they would otherwise never be able to master well enough to justify charging someone else to perform.
In a vocation, by design the money flows toward you. In an avocation, by design the money flows away from you. In the former, you finish the day exhausted and unhappy, but richer. In the latter, you finish exhausted and smiling, but poorer.
Ken
So well said I'm stealing that...
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I can live with that ....
Me too. In fact, having experienced photography as both, I much prefer it as an avocation.
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You made me think, but I decided not to.
It would be a nice project, but I have too many projects at hand already.
And I never have disassembled-lubricated-assembled a lens/shutter yet.
The lens costs $70 so I'll see if I can find a working one for about that same amount (in due time).
I've been a photographer for more than sixty years Ken, and discovered by bitter experience around forty years ago that my photography wasn't a problem that could be solved by throwing money at it, and the best way I could improve my work was to learn how to better use what I already had by spending my disposable income for my photography on improving my knowledge of the craft, by reading, attending photography courses and teach ins, not buying more and more equipment.But, but... Ben, that's what a hobby is all about.
One spends unjustifiable time and money in the vain pursuit of a skill that they would otherwise never be able to master well enough to justify charging someone else to perform.
In a vocation, by design the money flows toward you. In an avocation, by design the money flows away from you. In the former, you finish the day exhausted and unhappy, but richer. In the latter, you finish exhausted and smiling, but poorer.
Ken
With great respect Ben, there isn't much else. Only three more lenses exist in the line. You've already bought all the others.
Well, my 105mm DS is the only lens in the range that has an adjustable aperture diaphragm in the upper viewing lens. Sometimes it's helpful to be able to visually anticipate depth-of-field. It also has a DOF scale that can be used to help set hyperfocal distances on-the-fly.
Now granted not everyone needs these features, but then not everyone needs the extravagance of four lenses either. One can always "zoom" with one's feet, right? I might guess that the average Mamiya TLR user has only one, or possibly two, lenses.
Some might even characterize having four as a GAS attack...
Ken
"Zooming with your feet" is not "right" it's something you can't do in a confined space where you would have to knock a wall out to get far enough back, and the whole point of owning an interchangeable lens TLR is having the ability to use different focal length lenses with different angles of view, and I own the lenses that are the most use to me, there no necessity to own all the available lenses for my Mamiya camera any more than there's any need to own all the hundreds of available lenses for my Canon 35mm SLR's.With great respect Ben, there isn't much else. Only three more lenses exist in the line. You've already bought all the others.
Well, my 105mm DS is the only lens in the range that has an adjustable aperture diaphragm in the upper viewing lens. Sometimes it's helpful to be able to visually anticipate depth-of-field. It also has a DOF scale that can be used to help set hyperfocal distances on-the-fly.
Now granted not everyone needs these features, but then not everyone needs the extravagance of four lenses either. One can always "zoom" with one's feet, right? I might guess that the average Mamiya TLR user has only one, or possibly two, lenses.
Some might even characterize having four as a GAS attack...
Ken
Respectfully disagreeing with Benjiboy, the man responisble for enlightening me to the fantastic world of the Canon F-1N.
I do notice a marked difference going from the 65mm lens to the 55mm one.
I also do notice a strong difference in results with the 105mm versus the 80mm. The 80mm is very "vanilla" while the 105mm gives perspective of a portrait lens already.
And the 105mm is more ergonomic (and smaller) than the 135mm.
I have 55, 65, 80, 105, and 180. If i could keep only one, it would be the 105. If I could keep only two, then they would be the 65 and the 135, which I don't own yet.
I do notice a marked difference going from the 65mm lens to the 55mm one.
I also do notice a strong difference in results with the 105mm versus the 80mm. The 80mm is very "vanilla" while the 105mm gives perspective of a portrait lens already.
And the 105mm is more ergonomic (and smaller) than the 135mm.
I have 55, 65, 80, 105, and 180. If i could keep only one, it would be the 105. If I could keep only two, then they would be the 65 and the 135, which I don't own yet.
The 135 is the best portrait lens of the range and even then is a little short to give the correct spatial relationships between one feature and another of the human face and the 105mm lenses are even shorter which is why I never bought one.
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Could you please explain to me what you meant with this? I'm not sure if I understand this correctly.
But, but... Ben,
Isn't the above (highlighted by me) the exact same case with every individual's GAS attack purchases? Nobody buys stuff because they don't think they have a use for it. They buy it because they do think they have a use for it. Right??
I'm pretty sure that someone who has gotten along just fine with their Mamiya TLR for decades, making family pictures with only the standard issue 80mm lens, might look at someone who splurged and bought four lenses as being an unrepentant equipment fanatic.
Truth is always in the eye of the beholder.
Ken
But, but... Ben,
Isn't the above (highlighted by me) the exact same case with every individual's GAS attack purchases? Nobody buys stuff because they don't think they have a use for it. They buy it because they do think they have a use for it. Right??
I'm pretty sure that someone who has gotten along just fine with their Mamiya TLR for decades, making family pictures with only the standard issue 80mm lens, might look at someone who splurged and bought four lenses as being an unrepentant equipment fanatic.
Truth is always in the eye of the beholder.
Ken
Ken, you just keep getting smarter every day. I have the 80, 105, 135 and 180. I rarely use anything but the 80 and often feel like the others are sitting in the case, crying for attention.
Those wide angles are really, really nice. Lots of close-in breathing room. Especially that 55mm...
:devil:
Ken
Some people like photography and don't care at all about equipment except to the extent necessary for creating photographs according to their vision. Others like photography but also like the equipment, and some positively love the equipment side as well. For most of us this is a hobby. As long as you can afford it, don't neglect necessities, your family etc, why not?
As people have said on several pilot forums I'm on, there are really two important questions when it comes to spending on equipment: 1) Do you enjoy it? and 2) can you afford it? If the answer to both is yes, enjoy and don't worry about it. There's nothing wrong with splurging money you can afford if you like it, but there's also nothing wrong with a minimalist kit that suits your needs. Just depends on what you enjoy - and that's why most of us do it, for the fun.
As people have said on several pilot forums I'm on, there are really two important questions when it comes to spending on equipment: 1) Do you enjoy it? and 2) can you afford it? If the answer to both is yes, enjoy and don't worry about it. There's nothing wrong with splurging money you can afford if you like it, but there's also nothing wrong with a minimalist kit that suits your needs. Just depends on what you enjoy - and that's why most of us do it, for the fun.
Wanna' know what the definition of a pleasure boat is?
"A hole in the water, lined with wood, into which one dumps offsetting volumes of money."
Ken
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Roger, nicely put!
I saw this on someones bag today and thought I share it here among us, the GAS people
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In portraiture getting the human facial features the right size scale and proportion to each other is very important and using either a too short or too long focal length lens will distort that relationship and make the nose too big with a wide angle or standard lens used too close, or the face too flat with a too long telephoto one, generally in 35mm photography the ideal portrait focal length is around 85/90/100 and in medium format around 150/180.
I find with the Mamiya C lenses for portraiture I prefer using the 135mm lenses indoors where space is restricted and the 180mm outdoors.
http://mcpactions.com/2010/07/21/the-ideal-focal-length-for-portraiture-a-photographers-experiment/
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