I wonder if raise and shift are only popular because they're easier than raising/moving the tripod?
@Roger Cole when do you use rise as opposed to mounting the camera lower/higher? I wonder if raise and shift are only popular because they're easier than raising/moving the tripod? Maybe I am not feeling the need because I do my precise framing even before I pull the camera out of the backpack? I have a smartphone app for finding the view and position of the camera, so when it's mounted I already have the framing I wanted.
@koraks yes, that's actually my use case - and I use swing for that.
the purpose of raise and shift without affecting the focus plane.
Steven,
You need to be aware of the different functions of tilts/swings vs. rise/shift.
The tilt/swing movements change the position of the plane of sharp focus in the scene as well as changing the plane of focus on the film.
Shifts and rise/fall don't make any changes to the planes of focus. They just move the (larger-than-film) image circle around so you are using a different part of it compared to when the lens was centered on the film.
The position of the back (film plane) relative to the subject is what determines if parallel lines in the subject are rendered parallel on the film. But, setting up your camera with the back parallel to, say, a building façade with the lens centered on the film often cuts off the top of the building. Using front rise keeps the back parallel to the building while giving you the framing you want. If you just point the camera up, the vertical parallels will converge. Using swings/tilts in this scenario just tweaks focus in and out in different areas of the image, it won't change the rendering of the parallels.
Hope this helps,
Doremus
How will tilts and swings and rises affect falloff on wide-angle lenses if you don;t use a center filter?
Yeah, this.There's often no realistic amount of rise you can make with your tripod to keep verticals parallel and still have the desired framing. It's common in architectural work; take the classic image of a church tower taken from the front from ground level. You'd have to raise your tripod to roughly halfway the height of the tower to get parallel vertical lines and still capture the entire thing.
In other words: a little bit of front rise generally does the same thing as actually moving the camera by a far larger distance.
@Doremus Scudder yep this helps. I was just "complaining" about not needing it in practice, but that's just because I've been re-shooting my old landscapes where raise and shift weren't needed.
How will tilts and swings and rises affect falloff on wide-angle lenses if you don;t use a center filter? Will the falloff change depend on the section of the picture?
In my experience the defect in the sky area is not due to insufficient amount of developer but due to the developer not reaching that area on a regular basis independent of its volume. If you look carefully the width of the band is the same size as the slot on the reel. I purchased both the 2520 and 2509n new and for about a year developed 6 sheets of 4x5 at a time by hand inversion which requires 1500mL of developer. Then I started getting the same band in the sky as in your image. I switched to rotary processing, which requires only 270mL of chemistry, and the band disappeared. I theorized that over time the PhotoFlo that I was using in the tank built-up on the slot and prevented an even flow of chemistry across the film in that area. The takeaway from that was to remove the sheets from the reel and use a small tray or waterproof index file for the PhotoFlo treatment. Rotary processing forces the chemistry through that area.Well. I developed and scanned the negatives today. And here it is. My first 4x5 exposure:
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It has everything:
Couldn't be happier!
- Incomplete development at the top due to insufficient amount of developer in a JOBO tank
- Scratches left by my repeated attempts at getting the sheet in and out of the holder
- Black dust specks! My first.
A new and exiting side of dust to be introduced to! - Fondest memories of inhaling my own t-shirt while trying to focus under it
- Surprisingly, complete absence of my fingerprints!
The only slightly disappointing thing is that the resolution jump is quite modest vs 6x7 or 6x6. In terms of lp/mm my Hasselblad glass outperforms this Sironar-S.
remove the sheets from the reel and use a small tray or waterproof index file for the PhotoFlo treatment.
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