Minolta X-700: Removing the mirror box and shutter

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Today I would like to take a closer look at the mirror box and shutter of the X-700. To do this, the camera must be partially dismantled.

It's a bit of work, but if you are familiar with a screwdriver and soldering iron, it can be done without any problems.


Tutorial bei Gene Pate, Learn Camera Repair

For this I follow Gene Pate's excellent tutorial on Learn Camera Repair:


If you are interested in the individual steps involved in disassembling, you will find all the necessary information there with pictures and explanations, presented in an understandable and clear manner.

Here I would just like to give an impression of what the modules of the X-700 look like and how much effort is required to get to the mirror box and shutter. This may become necessary if there are problems with the mechanics or the magnets need to be cleaned or replaced.


And what about assembly?

Assembly shouldn't cause any problems either, all previous steps are carried out in reverse order.

It is important to have a detailed photo documentation, which you should do in addition to Gene's tutorial. In particular, there are some cables that need to be soldered and of course you have to put them in the right places. All of this is listed with Gene, but I took additional shots just to be sure.

Although it would be good practice for me, I will not be assembling the X-700. I would like to study the shutter and mirror box dissasembled in order to understand more.


Quality and workmanship, repairability

I like the quality of the materials and the workmanship of the parts.

Where necessary, the modules are solidly made of metal; there are some plastic gears in the shutter mechanism.

The many X-700s that are still in use today prove that everything is designed to work reliably for a long time. and work without any problems.

If something still needs to be repaired, you can exchange individual parts from an abandoned X-700. Either individually or entire modules such as the mirror box, the shutter or the complete electronics.

We have already discussed the well-known problem with defective electrolytic capacitors several times in the forum. Please check the relevant threads.


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The candidate for disassembly. The image counter on the left was already removed earlier. Upper and lower housing covers are already removed.


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Removing the leatherette.

Here you should be careful not to pull on the parts too hard so that they don't tear. The adhesive does not need to be dissolved beforehand. Fresh adhesive is then required for gluing, e.g. Pliobond.


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The bayonet cover is held in place by a screw.


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Desoldering cables


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Unscrewing the circuit board for the silicone cell of the exposure measuring system. This also allows the eyepiece to be removed.


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Unscrew the trigger unit.


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Removing the plate with battery chamber and tripod connection, which is held in place by six screws. Two connections to the lower circuit board as well as the positive connection with the power supply must be unsoldered and a spring underneath must be unhooked.


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All cables on the lower circuit board are unsoldered.


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After loosening four screws, the mirror box with shutter can be carefully lifted out of the holder with film window.
 
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Details of mirror and shutter mechanism.

The arrows point to electromagnets.


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The shutter roller blinds can be moved using these two gears.


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Motor clutch, lower circuit board, axle for the winding lever, rewind mechanism.


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Rear view
 
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Conclusion
  • Disassembling the X-700 to this stage is quick thanks to Gene's tutorial.
  • Modules with factory settings such as the mirror box, shutter or electronics can be replaced as a whole. This saves you (hopefully) from further disassembly, which means greater complication with these complex modules. Fresh settings and adjustments in this case are required too, which may require special devices that might not be available.
  • If you don't want to invest the work shown to repair, a broken X-700 can remain as a spare parts donor. Even defective SLRs are now traded at a high price.
  • As always with cameras like this, I find the work once of Japanese engineers impressive.
  • Finally there is a lot for me to study now 🙃

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Fascinating!
It is important to have a detailed photo documentation, which you should do in addition to Gene's tutorial. In particular, there are some cables that need to be soldered and of course you have to put them in the right places. All of this is listed with Gene, but I took additional shots just to be sure.
Good advice. I don't know if Minolta were consistent in always using the same colour of cable in a particular model but I've been warned that the cable colours used on the Asahi Pentax ME Super can change (although my one seems to follow the colours used in the guides I've seen) so it is advisable to have plenty of pictures of the actual camera being worked on just in case and not to rely exclusively of pictures of other cameras.
 
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I don't know if Minolta were consistent in always using the same colour of cable in a particular model …

The colors of the cables should be the same on all the X-700s that I have opened until now.

The cable diameters are designed for very small currents. I haven't found any new cables that are equivalent. But it doesn't hurt if the replacement is a little thicker.
 
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I assume that the Minolta service did not invest much time in troubleshooting issues with the mirror box, shutter and electronics, but instead replaced these modules generously. Even if extensive troubleshooting instructions can be found in the service manual. Labor was probably more expensive than spare parts.
 

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Greetings,

New member here. I appreciate Andreas shared his X-700 disassembly experience. I have a question for you. I am working on an X-700 that the winding doesn't complete the cycle. The cause appears to be the two plastic gears T(white and blue) are out of sync. I am trying to pivot away the white one and turn the blue one a few teeth and let them engage again to see if that fixes it.

The problem is the shutter and mirror box is currently charged/cocked so I cannot turn the blue gear too much.

Andreas, in your picture #16 (the one with two red arrows), is there some lever you can push to manually release the charged shutter/mirror box?

I did not take out the mirror box, or unsolder any wires. Just removed 6 screws from the metal plate (the one with tripod socket) and a screw from the winder contacts block. I can turn and flip the chrome metal plate away to access the bottom of the mirror box.

Thanks.
 
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Greetings,

New member here. I appreciate Andreas shared his X-700 disassembly experience. I have a question for you. I am working on an X-700 that the winding doesn't complete the cycle. The cause appears to be the two plastic gears T(white and blue) are out of sync. I am trying to pivot away the white one and turn the blue one a few teeth and let them engage again to see if that fixes it.

The problem is the shutter and mirror box is currently charged/cocked so I cannot turn the blue gear too much.

Andreas, in your picture #16 (the one with two red arrows), is there some lever you can push to manually release the charged shutter/mirror box?

I did not take out the mirror box, or unsolder any wires. Just removed 6 screws from the metal plate (the one with tripod socket) and a screw from the winder contacts block. I can turn and flip the chrome metal plate away to access the bottom of the mirror box.

Thanks.

Hi,

to release the shutter manually, Thomas Tomosy describes this process:

You can release the shutter mechanically by reaching through the hole in the base plate and flicking the mirror tensioning lever.

Thomas Tomosy, Camera Maintenance and Repair, Book 2, Buffalo: Amherst, 1997


To adjust the shutter mechanism (blue and white gears), see here (French, Google Translate is recommended for Translation):

 

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Hi Andreas, First off thanks for all the wonderful teardowns and pics of the numerous Minolta cameras. I have been searching for an alternative way to repair my numerous non working X-700 for awhile now. Just had both capacitors changed in latest x-700 and it's still not working. I like to know how to release the shutter manually as I don't know which hole in the base plate where the mirror tensioning lever is ? can you kindly circle or mark where it is in the picture from your thread ? Thanks in advance and really looking forwards to learning more from you ... Thanks, James.
 

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Hi Andreas, First off thanks for all the wonderful teardowns and pics of the numerous Minolta cameras. I have been searching for an alternative way to repair my numerous non working X-700 for awhile now. Just had both capacitors changed in latest x-700 and it's still not working. I like to know how to release the shutter manually as I don't know which hole in the base plate where the mirror tensioning lever is ? can you kindly circle or mark where it is in the picture from your thread ? Thanks in advance and really looking forwards to learning more from you ... Thanks, James.

Unfortunately, I can't answer that because I haven't looked into it.

But this video, which shows a CLA for the X-700, might help:

 

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Unfortunately, I can't answer that because I haven't looked into it.

But this video, which shows a CLA for the X-700, might help:



Hi Andreas, thank you so much for the reply. I fully understand and thanks for the YouTube link too, but there's no mention of the manual triggering of the shutter. Will figure it out but most likely keeping it for display or parts... Thanks 🙏
 
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