But at least you had the fun of using the Crown Graphic and all that film.
No, I think 35 or so are worth printing, the day I was there it was somewhat overcast, soft lighting even at midday. As I was shooting handheld even with Foma 400 shot at 320 I wanted to keep my shutter speed up, so depth of field was not ideal. In reality I could have done as well with 6X9.
Here is another one, I found a BRAND NEW Rolleiflex 3003 kit in original big silver box in 1996 (baby medium format). It was $1700. I'd need to sell it for more than $3,132 to break even today.
Planar-S 120mm cost me $1200 in 2001, now would need to get $1,960 to break even. Realistic price around $300 so I'm keeping it. Still works fine in stop-down mode on the 6008 but won't work on the Hy6.
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Not sureWhy think about breaking even?
Also, two things that should keep the Rollei 6000 system prices in check are that you cannot really adapt the lenses on Sony bodies and you cannot put a digital back on them, but still, some lenses have just disappeared from the market at any price (Distagon 4.0, Xenotar 2.0, Tele-Xenar 150mm and others) and I also saw some "for sale" posts from 2015 where prices where half of what they are now.
What to do? I would be bitter to see the same lens half the price in 12 months, but it would also be bitter to not see the lens for sale at all...
Pure conjecture. And would you rather break a contract and stiff the workers so you can pay a bit less for that roll of film?Kodak film is being manufactured to make the worker’s retirement fund liquid so there’s no incentive to close shop
Too much is being made of the rising costs of film. Yes, seemingly excessive and unfortunate but supply chain issues have affected everything in all our lives. Very few out there are film-only shooters and as such, have developed a shooting discipline long ago because of the cost. Kodak film is being manufactured to make the worker’s retirement fund liquid so there’s no incentive to close shop, and in fact they have expanded or reintroduced emulsions where Fujifilm does the Japanese thing of shutting down the line without explanation or outsourcing to Ilford. Lots of deals out there, like late model Leica R8 bodies if you have R lenses as well as an array of Nikons, Olympus and Canons. M film bodies were begging for buyers 8 or 10 years ago but no more. Same for Hasselblad 500 CM
Gas and food price increases are dominating peoples' budgets worldwide.
Ten years ago Hasselblad bodies and 80mm lenses were less than $400US and most of the other lenses were less than $800US. You should have been buying Hasselblad then when I kept posting to to that. At the time I was laughed at. Are you still laughing about that now??
I am laughing because at this point, I don't feel the need to own a Hasselblad beyond the SWC I already have. Film costs are a bit more concerning, but chemical and paper costs are rising, too. So it goes.
I tend to think that as a general trend, analog hardware will just go lower and lower, and also at some point the hipsters with accounts on lomography.com will get tired and put their stashes on ebay.
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I tend to think that as a general trend, analog hardware will just go lower and lower, and also at some point the hipsters with accounts on lomography.com will get tired and put their stashes on ebay.
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Based on what? If getting a great deal on MF gear was your goal, buying in 2015 would have been the way to go. Since the beginning of the pandemic, prices have increased tremendously.
I don’t have a crystal ball, but unless people start to worry that film will become hard to get, OR prices make them reluctant to shoot film (in the US right now, a roll of Tri-X 120 is $11, and getting it souped and scanned is about $22, plus the cost to mail it in- $3/frame!) I don’t think you will see prices going lower any time soon.
Altria was set up to fund the pensions after Kodak’s reorganization and so their fiduciary responsibility is to that task alone. .
Altria was set up to fund the pensions after Kodak’s reorganization and so their fiduciary responsibility is to that task alone. .
Gas and food price increases are dominating peoples' budgets worldwide.
Ten years ago Hasselblad bodies and 80mm lenses were less than $400US and most of the other lenses were less than $800US. You should have been buying Hasselblad then when I kept posting to to that. At the time I was laughed at. Are you still laughing about that now??
As plenty of others have said, there's a finite supply and rising demand, so the only place for prices to go is up.
The one thing that will affect that is the availability of film itself.
It can be harmful to your financial well being!Why couldn't you have found me and told me this back then? I'd have listened!
You seem to asume that demand will continue rising indefinitely. You assume the demand is based on solid foundations (like, for example, need to transport goods, in the case of demand for oil)
Let me say, from the perspective of somebody who has an instagram account to sell cameras, and whose customers are largely very young, that I believe this market is steered mostly by fads.
Two years ago all my customer wanted SLR cameras like the K1000 and AE-1 and no one, nobody was asking for P&S cameras. Now they're all asking for Point&Shoot cameras, and very few want a SLR.
It's all driven by whoever youtuber or instagram influencer says it's the new stuff now. And I dare to say medium format cameras -specific models- are still going to pass through the fad cycle, their prices will rise, and then drop.
For example nowadays nobody wants cameras like the Mamiya Six or the Fuji GX680. Wait until some influencer "discovers" them!!
Your argument makes sense to a point but in essence, every non-essential item is driven by trends. The P&S fad has been going on far longer than 2 years and hasn't let up either--been following out of curiosity the rise of Contax and Olympus P&S and haven't seen a cooling. I don't ever remember the AE-1 as a 'hot item' nor the K1000; the latter rarely in demand outside college students taking a photography class. What I have noticed is the inexorable rise of Nikon FM series and recently, the F3. Mamiya 6 has had issues with the collapsible mount and the GX680 needs a cart and a small pony to lug around. Fujifilm GF670/CV Bessa 667 are now close to $4k (and fragile). Especially with MF never made in large numbers (Hasselblad 500 series excepted) and supply will dwindle. Cannot see a major price slump.
There was a glut of MF equipment between 2000 and 2010 when the professional photographers switched to digital and dumped Hasselblads and Rollei slrs on the market. That was the time to buy. Good supply and many choices.
Mamiya 6 has had issues with the collapsible mount for years and the GX680 needs a cart pulled along by a small pony for portability. Fujifilm GF670/CV Bessa 667 are now pushing $4k (and fragile). In contrast to 35mm camera, MF models were never made in large numbers (Hasselblad 500 series excepted) and supply will dwindle
Your argument makes sense to a point but in essence, every non-essential item is driven by trends. The P&S fad has been going on far longer than 2 years and hasn't let up either--been following it out of curiosity & the rise of Contax and Olympus P&S hasn't appreciably cooled.
I don't ever remember the Canon AE-1 as a 'hot item' nor the Pentax K1000; the latter rarely in demand outside college students taking a photography class.
Very true but those were the days when the Unwashed Masses were transfixed with the 'magic' of 6MP sensors.
Took a bit of foresight to see otherwise.
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