Martin Parr doesn't care for film

[mynewcolour]

The Art of - ''On the beach with a telephoto'' ?? ...hmm ?

Really? That's some tabloid/clickbait thinking right there.

Are you going to call him a 'peado' for taking the Last Resort series?

 

[AgX]

About the interviewer, as he was repeatedly hinted at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigitalRev_TV

 

[klownshed]

The interviewer, Kai W has quite a following on YouTube. He's an entertaining personality and does what he has to do to get noticed on YouTube.

He has developed a style which you may or may not like but judged within the confines of what he does, is successful and he's good at being a YouTuber.

The production values are pretty good considering the intended market, where a YouTube channel needs to keep producing regular content to avoid being forgotten and losing ad revenue.

 

[blockend]

Really? That's some tabloid/clickbait thinking right there.

Are you going to call him a 'peado' for taking the Last Resort series?

Martin said somewhere that The Last Resort would be impossible to shoot now because someone would take exception to elements of the subject matter. How popular consciousness has changed in 30 years! The naked male infant was sufficiently inspired by the photograph to a take a photography degree as an adult. The point about the telephoto wasn't to snoop - Parr has no problem shooting in people's faces - it's to challenge the wide angle aesthetic of street photography as a whole. He's always been experimental in his approach, and his advocacy of Stephen Gill who shoots exclusively on film and whose work is all about the film medium, shows he isn't anti-analogue.

I posted the link because Martin Parr's work was closely associated with hand held medium format colour negative photography, but he found the transition to digital easy to make. For others that isn't so. Parr didn't seek commercial success, advertising and fashion came to him after Last Resort and I'm sure the irony of the situation wasn't lost on him! One of my favourite Parr quotes came when a young and somewhat naïve interviewer asked if he wasn't a little bit obsessive in his photography. Martin Parr replied that the problem with most photographers is they aren't obsessed enough.

 

[blockend]

I may prefer the look of his film-shot stuff but I've watched him work - he shoots a lot of frames! I can't see how anyone can object to his methods, is he not brilliant at what he does?

He also shot a lot of frames on medium format cameras, which is why those knocking his attitude to film are wide of the mark. He said he couldn't afford to get all his negatives contact printed for Last Resort and had to judge the shots from the neg itself.

 

[Helinophoto]

Martin Parr?

Never heard of her.

He doesn't like film and he swears to 'P' mode and hate manual, wow....!
I am sure if he ever actually read the manual for his camera, he would be able to utilize actual manual control as well.


Kai on the other hand, has put the 'fun' in photography for many years with digialRev (and analogRev), he recently quit digitalRev and is now living in the UK and runs his own channel.

I think Kai has done more for photography 'for the masses' than Parr and I think you need to have been pretty long in this game to even know who he is.

 

[Helinophoto]

''I subvert the commercial aspirations of photography'' - as he waits to pick up his award at the Sony Corporation's lush dinner do.

The Art of - ''On the beach with a telephoto'' ?? ...hmm ?

Also, I've seen a few of this Asian guy's photography themed video uploads on youtube, and they are awful; all presentation and shallow un-inspiring drivel interspersed with needless interjection and sillyness.

Then again...maybe I just got out of the wrong side of bed this morning.

JP

Check out digitalRev's channel, there are tons of videos for the young and budding photographers out there, they are fun and relaxed videos for the most part, covering the basics and various ideas, new equipment etc, sure as heck more interesting then many of the talking heads on there.
https://www.youtube.com/user/DigitalRevCom/videos

 

[blockend]

Martin Parr?

Never heard of her.


Kai on the other hand, has put the 'fun' in photography for many years with digialRev (and analogRev), he recently quit digitalRev and is now living in the UKL and runs his own channel.

I think Kai has done for photography 'for the masses' than Parr and I think you needs to have been pretty long in this game to even know who he is.

Kai's business is selling cameras. Parr's job is photography. I'm sure Kai is as unconcerned with the technical increments of digital cameras as Parr is, but those tweaks are his bread and butter, unlike Martin Parr.

 

[AgX]

Martin Parr?
Never heard of her.

Kai on the other hand, has put the 'fun' in photography for many years with digialRev (and analogRev), he recently quit digitalRev and is now living in the UK and runs his own channel.

I think Kai has done more for photography 'for the masses' than Parr and I think you need to have been pretty long in this game to even know who he is.

I know of Parr but never heard of Kai before. I think for a great part that is as matter of age and lifestyle.

 

[Helinophoto]

Kai's business is selling cameras. Parr's job is photography. I'm sure Kai is as unconcerned with the technical increments of digital cameras as Parr is, but those tweaks are his bread and butter, unlike Martin Parr.

Every blogger out there are sponsored to promote various brands, but the digitalRev-TV has loads of videos not focusing on the latest camera, but more "how to" series and also how to shoot film. Then again, diititalRev was not owned or sponsored by camera-producers.
Kai, these days, especially in his new channel, is more a reviewer than the older style digitalRev fun-tv and it is more apparent that he needs his income and sponsorship.
- Doesn't stop him from whining about shortcomings of various brand though, even though there seems to be more reviews and covering of various 'conventions' and 'venues'.

But squarespace seems to be the solution to all problems!

- I find it strange that seasoned, professional photographers like Parr can shoot in P-mode.
What do they do when the camera decides to shoot a portrait at f16 and ISO 12800 at 1/50's?

Call it 'art' ?

It's lazy and typical for people who didn't adjust that damn blinking clock on their VCR's back in the day.

 

[Helinophoto]

I know of Parr but never heard of Kai before. I think for a great part that is as matter of age and lifestyle.

Yes, well....age and probably the field one is in.
- Photographers tend to know more photographers than non-photographers and non-photographers tend to buy stuff that photographers create.

I wonder where Parr gets his main income from these days, his photography, or sponsorship ? (most big names out there are endorsed, and even if he is more known in the UK or for a different generation of photographers, he very likely is).

 

[blockend]

- I find it strange that seasoned, professional photographers like Parr can shoot in P-mode.
What do they do when the camera decides to shoot a portrait at f16 and ISO 12800 at 1/50's?

Call it 'art' ?

It's lazy and typical for people who didn't adjust that damn blinking clock on their VCR's back in the day.

Martin Parr's photography is shot on a camera that "talks" to his flash. Why would he hamstring himself with a bunch of mathematical calculations before he presses the shutter? He obviously understands the subject of fill in flash because he did the same with a manual medium format film camera, and before that a Leica. The production of art has nothing to do with what exposure mode the camera is set on.

 

[Helinophoto]

He uses TTL II then.
You can still use manual on your camera, the camera instructs the flash to go up or down in power and you can adjust the flash-power trough flash compensation if it's too weak or too strong, TTL basically has nothing to do with the camera being in manual mode or not.

I just find it strange, then again, his photographs are not my taste (googled and checked, meh'ed and moved on).

 

[blockend]

I just find it strange, then again, his photographs are not my taste (googled and checked, meh'ed and moved on).

Perhaps your Google isn't working? https://pro.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx...ult&ALID=2K1HRGWPTOZ2&VBID=2K1HZSJOP89RK&PN=1

 

[Skiver101]

''Are you going to call him a 'peado' for taking the Last Resort series?''

No...but I do notice that you have introduced the term into the discussion - while you throw around charges of ''tabloid/clickbait thinking''.

Dreadful and insulting assumption, but hey...whatever's on your mind.

JP

 

[removed account4]

Wow you really do only have to name a famous and financially successful living photographer on Apug for the sour grapes to be dumped in the hopper and every scrap of juice squeezed out.

yep. sour grapes and a side of cranky.

 

[Helinophoto]

Perhaps your Google isn't working? https://pro.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx...ult&ALID=2K1HRGWPTOZ2&VBID=2K1HZSJOP89RK&PN=1

Nah, it's working just fine, looks like average snaps most of them to be honest, at least he got his exposure right..

By the way, Magnum has never been about being the "best of the best" club, it's origins was for photographers having the rights to their own work.
Capa blew himself up and Bresson shot color for a while in the 70's, before he started to paint mediocre paintings and locked his Leica in a vault.

- Even though some of the more known photographers were the founders, it doesn't mean those who came later were any better or worse, even though Magnum likes to portray themselves as the be-all.

Yes, I know I'm stepping on some toes with that, but there you go. Old farts who had a life-long career and is approaching their 70's should go off to retirement and let new blood push photography further instead of standing at the bridge until they keel over.

 

[blockend]

Yes, I know I'm stepping on some toes with that, but there you go. Old farts who had a life-long career and is approaching their 70's should go off to retirement and let new blood push photography further instead of standing at the bridge until they keel over.

Photography is a democratic medium. If "new blood" has something original to offer it will gain an audience. Until then the "average snaps" of Martin Parr will remain one of the cornerstones of contemporary photography.

 

[Helinophoto]

If you say so

 

[moose10101]

Yes, I know I'm stepping on some toes with that, but there you go. Old farts who had a life-long career and is approaching their 70's should go off to retirement and let new blood push photography further instead of standing at the bridge until they keel over.

Maybe we should all be required to write our age on our photos, so the hipsters will know which ones to skip over.

And what is this "retirement" you speak of?

 

[moose10101]

Double post.

 

[blockend]

If you say so

I do say so. If you're arguing photography is undemocratic you're wrong, photography has never been cheaper or the means to disseminate your images more available. If you're saying Martin Parr is hogging the limelight you're also wrong, he does more to educate and enthuse young photographers than most people, and spreads the word on interesting work, as well as co-editing the exhaustive three volume bible (soon to be four) on the photobook. So however you look at it you're wrong, and if you had to Google Parr's work you're ignorant and wrong. You are fully entitled to dislike his work, your reasons for doing so are misplaced and prejudicial.

 

[Helinophoto]

I follow several podcasts and vlogs who do talk about various names in photography, Parr has never been mentioned even once.

I suppose it's like everything else in the arts, after he is dead, he will be bigger than Elvis.

 

[blockend]

I follow several podcasts and vlogs who do talk about various names in photography, Parr has never been mentioned even once.

I suppose it's like everything else in the arts, after he is dead, he will be bigger than Elvis.

Perhaps this will clear up what he's about?

 

[Mike Crawford]

Probably worth noting that Martin Parr has probably shot more film than the vast majority of Apug members!

He didn't immediately turn to digital but has certainly embraced it in the last decade as it perfectly suits his method of working. I read his comments in the interview to be more about the use of analogue in (British) photographic education. Even though I sometimes teach analogue (and digital) printing at Universities, I think he has a point about the 'snob factor.' Given his track record with curating, exhibiting and publicising other photographer's work, probably fair to say he's more into the photograph, story and result than the medium it's shot on.