The few Lomography camera owners I met so far, had no contact with film photography before that.
Lomography started when analog photography was as it height, now they even got stronger in a technically total different world.
Lomography is to photography as McDonald's is to nutrition.
Overpriced plastic crap for equipment is no introduction to photography or any other craft.
Hey!!
Leave my Holga alone.
I am not a fine artist.
I will never pay the bills with a photograph.
For me it is a hobby.
Hobbies are supposed to be fun.
Hobbies are for relaxation.
All Lomography is trying to do is to let kids have fun with film.
So relax and let people play a bit.
EDIT - Not trying to pick on you Cholentpot. Just using your post as a lead in...
I'd like to know how many "young first time film users" go on to decent cameras at realistic prices and film that renders naturally, and how many say "this is crap, my phone takes more realistic pictures" and abandon film for digital, thinking the overpriced stuff lomography peddles is really what film and film gear is like. Disagree if you wish, it won't change the reality which is that lomography is misleading, and all about profit to the point of selling whatever "art lens" and plastic - fantastic stuff they can turn a profit on under the guise of disseminating the wonders of film.
What he said
i think the biggest problem with getting young people to be interested in film photography
is the people who aren't young.
what lomo is doing now is no different than what kodak did for 70+ years.
the only difference is that kodak stopped and eventually went bankrupt.
Kindly cite factual information, from the lomography site.What he said is demonstratively wrong. Look to Lomography's own website. Not only do they offer their 'unique' films (though, some of their films are normal, rebranded standards), but also Ilford (sheet), Kodak (8mm), and Fuji (Instax). The even sell some Washi film (something I've wanted tor try.). Next, while many believe their art lenses to be evil incarnate, the lenses never the less have to mount to something. The something is a set of cameras that have canon mounts, Nikon mounts, or Pentax mounts. So, I guess tomography shooters are buying none lomo film AND own Nikons, Canons, and Pentax's. They also sell a wide selection of mount adapters of standard real-life, serious cameras. What else? Manfrotto tripods, cyanotype kits, and negative archive holders. They have their own film developing service AND how-to guides for DIY developing.
Perhaps a balanced diet, though heavy on desert!
Except for the fact that Kodak, with a few exceptions, sold decent products, not over-hyped rubbish, at reasonable prices and backed them up with very solid technical support.
Back when Lubitel, Diana, Lomo, Chinon Belami, Domiplan lenses and the rest were current products, I used to try and enthuse people in them. I did this because they took photography away from spec sheets, promoted spontaneity and were dirt cheap. No one was interested. They thought they were Commie junk, joke shop cameras or for people too poor to use anything else. What Lomography understood, and I signally failed to understand, is if you want to make something desirable you make it really expensive.
If something is objectively bad, you promote badness, frame it in exclusivity and place a big ticket on it. Miroslav Tichy understood this. If you want to be great, you need the worst camera ever. When the worst is too good, lavatory paper tubes and elastic bands are the new must have. I can supply one for £2000, the postage is on me.
Unfortunately, however, I fear you're right, John ...i think the biggest problem with getting young people to be interested in film photography
is the people who aren't young ...
Are we seriously judging people based on what kind of pen they use?
Kindly cite factual information, from the lomography site.
I disagree. The street photography genre is predicated on happy accidents, the coming together of disparate elements in a split second to create some kind of unity. It can be planned to a degree, where does the light fall, where's the action take place, but in the end it's fishing for a bite with long intervals of nothing for a few exciting catches. As Garry Winogrand said, everyone knows what a good photograph is supposed to look like, but they just require technique, and technique can be learnt by anyone. A great photograph on the other hand requires the ingredient of magic.
The idea of feeling a good photo is a sound one, but it doesn't require overpriced quirky cameras to roll with.
The problem is when everybody try to fill flickr pits with their creation and pretend to be an artist or want to become an artist
Kids today have this incredible urge to be famous. I don’t know if this is really happening worldwide, but here in Brazil, there’s this “youtuber” phenomenon and some people are really getting famous (and paid) by simply recording themselves talking about random stuff or telling jokes and publishing to YouTube.
And then there’s these thousands of “me-toos” that believe it’s just that simple...
pretty lazy trolling from OP
Unfortunately, however, I fear you're right, John ...
The manner in which one is introduced to photography is unimportant. What is important is that it sparks a passion which leads one to further explore the medium. How many of us started with Hasselblads or 8x10? Not many, I'd guess. Yet, I see many posters which refer to 620 Brownies, or cheap instamatics, as being their first cameras, certainly "plastic crap" compared to many cameras. Even with the limitations of those cameras, the images made spurred the posters to make photography a lifetime pursuit.Lomography is to photography as McDonald's is to nutrition.
Overpriced plastic crap for equipment is no introduction to photography or any other craft.
The manner in which one is introduced to photography is unimportant. What is important is that it sparks a passion which leads one to further explore the medium. How many of us started with Hasselblads or 8x10? Not many, I'd guess. Yet, I see many posters which refer to 620 Brownies, or cheap instamatics, as being their first cameras, certainly "plastic crap" compared to many cameras. Even with the limitations of those cameras, the images made spurred the posters to make photography a lifetime pursuit.
Not only that, but Holgas/Dianas can make exquisite images, in the right hands.
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