Lenses for Scanning (film digitizing)

[isaac7]

I had always heard that the Pentax macros did a good job. The m42 mounts are pretty cheap. I would imagine the bellows only models would be even cheaper.

 

[originalwinslow]

I think that is largely an artifact of NLP. The saturation is not unnatural - it is just being interpreted in that NLP philosophy.

Yes I'm sure that it's an issue with NLP interpreting the signal from the RGB light. Supposedly they are integrating enhanced support for different light sources. Glad to hear you are getting better results from C1. Would you be able to share a comparison? I also heard the smart convert software gave a more natural look with the RGB.

 

[silvergelatin]

Yes I'm sure that it's an issue with NLP interpreting the signal from the RGB light. Supposedly they are integrating enhanced support for different light sources. Glad to hear you are getting better results from C1. Would you be able to share a comparison? I also heard the smart convert software gave a more natural look with the RGB.

I don't have anything prepared as a comparison - it's just my conclusion after using both across many rolls. C1 really shines with the RGB light - you can get the same results as you could wth a good manual conversion in PS, but way more efficiently and in batches. It takes me more time to re-convert old white light scans, but the RGB scans really snap into place pretty easily. They have a free trial, so if you decide to give it a shot, watch the recent livestream recording on Youtube where they go over the new negative conversion mode. Also, a critical trick for batch neg conversion is to set a "border buffer" shortcut like NLP has. In C1, you can save a crop as a style and assign it to a keyboard shortcut. You then uncrop after conversion by hitting the shortcut again. The other not-secret weapon is the Pick Neutralize dropper in Curves. Works like the midtone dropper in PS, but feels more accurate. If you never move your camera or change aperture, you can also save your flat field correction (LCC) as a style and apply it automatically.

So yeah, I like Capture One. I have only been using it a few weeks now, but I don't think I would go back to Adobe as a main scanning environment. I have old LR/PS pricing locked in, so I will still renew my subscription so I can keep the option open. Plus I have a lot of old converted rolls in LR that I don't feel like redoing just yet, so I still will refer back to it sometimes. The only downside of C1 is the rather high price.

 

[BobDavid]

I had read about the 110, and it didn’t fare well: https://www.closeuphotography.com/1x-test-2020

I also tried the 65 and took it right back. maybe it is good at 1:2, but with an extension tube it was quite poor for film. I currently own the Sigma 70, 105 Fujinon EX, 60 Rodagon, and 55/2.8 Nikkor. The Rodagon and Nikkor are the best so far. The Fujinon is not good for this. The Sigma 70 is overrated, in my opinion. The field is not flat at all, at least with my copy. The old lenses beat it easily. I think my next step would have to be an Apo-Rodagon D 75mm, if I can find one.

I saw O'Toole's comments about the Voigtlander 110 f/2.5 Apo Lanthar. That is the first negative report I've read about that particular lens. Here's a quick Chat GTP summary: "The Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 APO-Lanthar is an outstanding, premium manual-focus macro lens for Sony E-mount, widely praised for its exceptional sharpness, apochromatic (APO) correction, and beautiful bokeh. It offers 1:1 magnification and produces excellent image quality with essentially zero chromatic aberration." If you google reviews on the lens, you'll see that it is highly regarded. I have used premium Rodagons, Componons, Nikkors, and many others. The Voigtlander is the best. I routinely use one on a Sony A7r IV for copying 35mm slides and negatives. It easily out resolves whatever I put in front of it in combo with the Sony.

 

[silvergelatin]

I saw O'Toole's comments about the Voigtlander 110 f/2.5 Apo Lanthar. That is the first negative report I've read about that particular lens. Here's a quick Chat GTP summary: "The Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 APO-Lanthar is an outstanding, premium manual-focus macro lens for Sony E-mount, widely praised for its exceptional sharpness, apochromatic (APO) correction, and beautiful bokeh. It offers 1:1 magnification and produces excellent image quality with essentially zero chromatic aberration." If you google reviews on the lens, you'll see that it is highly regarded. I have used premium Rodagons, Componons, Nikkors, and many others. The Voigtlander is the best. I routinely use one on a Sony A7r IV for copying 35mm slides and negatives. It easily out resolves whatever I put in front of it in combo with the Sony.

I'll look into to it some more. There are a lot of great macro lenses out there that reveal aberrations when forced to do flat copy work at 1:1, which is why a good lens for this purpose is usually one that designed with that in mind (like the old 55 Micro Nikkor).

 

[BobDavid]

I'll look into to it some more. There are a lot of great macro lenses out there that reveal aberrations when forced to do flat copy work at 1:1, which is why a good lens for this purpose is usually one that designed with that in mind (like the old 55 Micro Nikkor).

The Voigtlander 65 and 110 are both flat field lenses. The old 55 Micro Nikkors are not in the same league. They were workhorses in the 1970s, 80s, 90s and a bit beyond. I assure you the Voigtlanders are in a different league. I earned a living doing high-end repro work for decades...

 

[silvergelatin]

The Voigtlander 65 and 110 are both flat field lenses. The old 55 Micro Nikkors are not in the same league. They were workhorses in the 1970s, 80s, 90s and a bit beyond. I assure you the Voigtlanders are in a different league. I earned a living doing high-end repro work for decades...

The 65 I had definitely fell apart at 1:1. It wasn't just weak corners, but even the center was not as clear as the Nikkor. It is probably much better without extension tubes at 1:2, or maybe I just had a bad one. DO you have any links to tests of the 110 that show its performance for flat copy work at 1:1?