I suppose I should set it all up (currently boxed in the cupboard) and try it out and see what can and can't be done (I don't have chemicals yet but at least I can work it out for when I do.
Tangentially - I don't have negative carriers for 6x7 or 6x4.5 either (just 35mm and something else, maybe 6x6) but am planning to make some DIY ones up (after seeing the low supply / going rate of the sizes I need).
It is indeed 39!
I have a German friend so am used to these bad jokes
Over the years I've gathered up many lens 50mm for 35m 60mm for 4X4 also works with 35mm and 6X4.5, 75mm and 80 for 6X6, 90mm for 6X7 100 and 105 for 6X9 and 135, 150 and 162mm for 4X5. The 162 is for 4X5 from 4X5. I dont have any APO lens, have not enlarged color in many years, but might get a 50 APO as I am gearing up for color in a week or so.
Most 4 element and 5 elements lens do well at 8X10 to 11X14, 6 element likely do better at 16X20 and larger. I find that my old Wollensake and Kodak Extar lens are just sharp as my German lens at 8X10 and 11X14.
In terms of a contact sheet, I use a lens matched to the format set to F8, with the enlarger as close to 8X10 as I can get and still cover the negative file page, then use the same time I use for most of 8X10s. With 75watt blub grade 2 filter, around 22 seconds for most RC VC papers. I dont think it would matter much if I used say 50mm for all formats, just a habit I got into.
What kind of neg carrier do you have for 35mm? they are of 2 types: glass and glassless.
Glassless is fine for 35mm but you might run into film flatness issues with larger formats. I use my 6x9 glass carrier with all film formats I print. It's great but a dust magnet... there's no way around cleaning it as well as the neg with a can of compressed air prior to printing.
By the way, let me know if you happen to be in Munich and let's have this beer!
Durst nomenclature and accessory choice can be somewhat complex, but I would guess that if that carrier works with 6x9, it won't work in the OP's Durst M670.Probably the best indeed is to try!
What kind of neg carrier do you have for 35mm? they are of 2 types: glass and glassless.
Glassless is fine for 35mm but you might run into film flatness issues with larger formats. I use my 6x9 glass carrier with all film formats I print. It's great but a dust magnet... there's no way around cleaning it as well as the neg with a can of compressed air prior to printing.
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Hope this helps!
-- Etienne
Dunno about the M670, but spare parts for the M805 which I have are rare and expensive - I paid more than 100 € for these two silly pieces of glass. I hope they can be found cheaper for the 670!OH wow - yes I have glassless ones that came with the kit, but this looks ideal for using with all the formats I'll be using.. I'll look into this as I think it would be a big help for my kit.
Thanks. I met several great people in various places of the world thanks to this forum - always a pleasure!Absolutely, same goes for London
Durst nomenclature and accessory choice can be somewhat complex, but I would guess that if that carrier works with 6x9, it won't work in the OP's Durst M670.
My searches haven't led me to a link for a manual for the M670, but based on the manual for the M605, it looks like there is at least two different lens mounts -
SIRIOPLA for 80mm and SIRIOTUB for 50mm lenses - with a third mount for lenses 100mm and longer.
Thanks. I met several great people in various places of the world thanks to this forum - always a pleasure!
By the way I had a look at your blog, man those portraits are incredible! Terrific pictures!
with a third mount for lenses 100mm and longer.
Yes definitely! It was not my intent to say he has to use the very same carrier - was just meant as an example. Sorry if my post was misleading.Durst nomenclature and accessory choice can be somewhat complex, but I would guess that if that carrier works with 6x9, it won't work in the OP's Durst M670.
Man, is that obscure... and I am native French speaker! Apparently the glass carrier is called VEGACOLSET 67. It comes with an anti-newton glass and a few other accessories (such as a tube for the lens etc.). Mike, if you buy one, be sure that it is sold with all accessories unless you already have some. I don't feel like writing a full translation of the above text, but can provide you the important points if you wish. (also over the phone... we can discuss in pm)
the ideal focal length for an enlarger lens is always the same focal length as the'normal' focal length of the negative format. In your case that would be 75 or 80 mm.Hi folks,
I acquired a lot of darkroom equipment last year to initially process my own C-41 film - which has gone really well so far.
I've been looking forward to starting to use the Durst M670 Color - although setting this up has taken some time while I work out some challenges.
The enlarger came with a Durst 50mm lens, but I'm aware this may not be best for what I shoot. While I do shoot 35mm on occasion, mostly I shoot medium format: 6x7 and sometimes 6x4.5.
I'm wondering if anyone has advice for the best lens to get that perhaps covers both medium format sizes, or if there are other things like magnifiers or any other options to me.
I would obviously like very high quality but I don't have much of a budget for this at the moment, especially when coupled with chemicals and papers (along with the constant rising price of Portra) so I'd love to hear any economical options.
I completed an 'intro to colour darkroom' course which included a day of printing, but any other advice for a newbie would also be appreciated!
Thanks!
Apart from El Nikkor, Rodenstock and Schneider, Meopta Meogon, Fuji and Minolta (among others) made excellent MF enlarging lenses.Here is a site that I looked at over the years when thinking about what lens to buy.
Photo Cornucopia Home
Topic:
The Big List of Enlarging Lenses
Author/Copyright:
John Jovic
I found a Rodenstock APO-Rodagon 90mm at some point and "upgraded" my 80mm Componon. The difference was very minor and in line with what Markbau says 2 posts above. Never saw light fall off with mine, but the largest I print is 6x6 as well as 24 x 67 (Xpan). I am not a case for vignetting I guess...
PS. I print B&W exclusively.
What a fascinating website, lots of good resources - thanks for sharing!Here is a site that I looked at over the years when thinking about what lens to buy.
Photo Cornucopia Home
Be careful to avoid the Componar or the Rodagar lenses which are the cheap and cheerful ranges.
Also, cleaning the neg and carrier with an antistatic brush prior to printing helps;canned air is expensive and just blows the dust around.Probably the best indeed is to try!
What kind of neg carrier do you have for 35mm? they are of 2 types: glass and glassless.
Glassless is fine for 35mm but you might run into film flatness issues with larger formats. I use my 6x9 glass carrier with all film formats I print. It's great but a dust magnet... there's no way around cleaning it as well as the neg with a can of compressed air prior to printing.
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Hope this helps!
-- Etienne
I was just browsing eBay, and great MF enlarging lenses can be had for $25- 50.If I was to find one of these cheap cheap to start playing (before getting a great lens), what would be the major drawback(s)?
Thanks btaylor - that's very generous - bear in mind I'm in the UK (but would happily page postage).I was just browsing eBay, and great MF enlarging lenses can be had for $25- 50.
Come to think of it, someone traded me a box of quality enlarging lenses for a damaged camera lens, I’ll look through them, perhaps there is one you would be interested in.
The money you spent on the cheap lenses wouldn't be available to spend on the better lenses.If I was to find one of these cheap cheap to start playing (before getting a great lens), what would be the major drawback(s)?
The money you spent on the cheap lenses wouldn't be available to spend on the better lenses.
And probably more importantly, the time and the money for the paper you printed on with the cheap lenses would be used up - you would have to use new money and time if you felt the need to reprint using better lenses.
All that being said, if they are in good shape, the cheap lenses are probably fine if you are seeking to make competent, fairly small (8"x10" or smaller) prints for sharing and temporary display. As an example, I'd be happy to use them for something like the Photrio postcard exchange.
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