You have both misinterpreted my intention, and incorrectly attributed to me beliefs that can't be inferred from what I posted.
Accordingly, I shall pick up my ball and leave the park.
But please come back and play at APUG park!
FWIW, using a computer over a pen does change the results, studies have shown. People note-taking with a pen have been shown to be better at processing and remembering information than on a computer or pad. I will not say more creative -- but there is a difference.
I find that my ability to being spontaneous is not reduced when I am using a LF camera. The decision to bring the 35mm camera to my eye to take a photo happens no faster than my decision to set up a LF camera. What follows with LF is slower, but being speedy does not equal being spontaneous.
43 posts in less than 24 hrs. Great trolling John.:munch:
I don't think such a broad statement can be made. However I know that when I went to 7x17 I slowed down considerably and gave each image far more thought than when I was using 4x5. Size of the equipment slowed me down, and cost of supplies limited the number of images in a given period. Does this make my images better? I hope so, but I am not the one to make that judgment.in another thread it was said
that the larger and more cumbersome the equipment
the slower the process and more creative, thoughtful the final results.
does it follow that folks that use smaller formats take less creative photographs?
or does creativity have to do with things other than $$ invested in the equipment, and "process" ?
Back in the late 1990's while I was at University I used Voice recognition software to write my essays and dissertation, I found a freedom and it was more like using a pen and faster than typing (on a computer)- and typing is more indecisive.
I'm very fast working with LF, I've been out with photographers shooting smaller formats and digital and fin them slowHelps when I work hand held . . . . . but even with a tripod speed can be important even with LF.
Ian
There is also an interesting phenomena that when using a tripod, I, as well a most of my fellow portrait types, found that with the tripod you saw things and could fix them, that you would very often miss shooting hand held.
It was the fact of holding, balancing and looking through a viewfinder all at once, that very often made for, clothing issues with the subject that were missed, background issues that were missed, and imprecise cropping.
This was with medium format.
So it could be argued that a tripod holding the crop, holding the perspective and the subject, allows the photographer a far greater control of the shot. As well with portraits, the ability to see the subjects face the instant the shutter is released, (SLR), because you aren't looking through the viewfinder.
Back in the late 1990's while I was at University I used Voice recognition software to write my essays and dissertation, I found a freedom and it was more like using a pen and faster than typing (on a computer)- and typing is more indecisive.
I'm very fast working with LF, I've been out with photographers shooting smaller formats and digital and fin them slowHelps when I work hand held . . . . . but even with a tripod speed can be important even with LF.
Ian
man ray is known to have said " A certain amount of contempt for the material employed to express an idea is indispensable to the purest realization of this idea. "
Not to agree or disagree, I wish I understood why he thought that.
perhaps it was meant to say that "respect" for the materials is not nearly so useful to creativity and result, as commanding the material, and perhaps perverting the material to suit the artist's needs or desires. Some contempt does make a more open path to experimenting, without feeling bad about maybe profaning or insulting the material. e.g. - "you can't do that to rice paper, its so delicate and lovely and what you are doing is just not appropriate!"
...So it could be argued that a tripod holding the crop, holding the perspective and the subject, allows the photographer a far greater control of the shot...
Most of my thoughts on the matter have already been discussed.However,I would like to add that it all depends upon whst one calls “creative”. The most recent email notification from Hasselblad displayed their recent winners for crestive artistic photography. Thank God that the Hassy is capable of more imaginative pictures than these “winners”. Like a painter or sculpturer,a camera can sketch,draw,paint or carve. I use formats from 8x11(minox),35mm,120,to 4x5 and each gives satisfactory results for the creative task at hand. Picasso could do more with white window paint than many other psinters withba full palette.
As HiHo points to, i am motivated by the pure joy of picking a camera up, whether failed or successful, or whether i have just stared at a ground glass and not even put a film holder in the back. "Honey, i am going out for a little while to take a photograph, see you in about 6 hours....." . I don't think i have been setting out to be creative, or to create art. When i got my first LF camera, a 4x5 monorail, my purpose or "artist's statement" was: I aim to produce a photograph that i like well enough and is done well enough to hang on my own wall, in my own home. I don't want to hang other people's photographs on my walls in my home. Since then, i have distracted in purpose to satisfying a coinciding desire to capture on film things i see around me i like, or things that have a valuable trait or characteristic, seldom captured, threatened with loss or plain forgotten, and has a story to tell. This too, has been fun. Creative? I think so, but not all wallpapering material or worthy of a portfolio.……. It does have the benefit of being fun. 'Hope you're enjoying your journey also.
Not to agree or disagree, I wish I understood why he thought that.
Well then show us what you are capable of sir, because I got the same email and every single one of those shots is exponentially better then at least the first dozen or more pages of the gallery seen here.
Well then show us what you are capable of sir, because I got the same email and every single one of those shots is exponentially better then at least the first dozen or more pages of the gallery seen here.
Wow... There are some excellent photographers showing superb photographs, in the Gallery. It's been that way for the more than 10 years I've been a subscriber. Before challenging others to show what they're capable of, show us what you're capable of.
......... Before challenging others to show what they're capable of, show us what you're capable of.
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)
Why sure, I'll PM you...
I didn't realize you had changed your name. I remember your work, and liked a lot of the black and white stuff I had previously seen (I may have even commented, in the past). I don't think it stands out as far superior to many of the excellent photographs in the Gallery, as good as it may be, though.
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