large format to small format

[Thomas Bertilsson]

...i'm in the process of moving and noticed that I had a lot of camera stuff and then started wondering if any of it would make better pictures with a semistand exposure? i have 4 tripods so it shouldn't be a problem... the question is weather to throw in any sulfates to reduce the grain... and where to put it of course...

How do you agitate the exposure? I can see how some vigorous random exposure of things at the beginning of the exposure could help with a type of texture in the film. Will the scanner pick it up though? Will it give me the typical film look?

 

[Shawn Dougherty]

How do you agitate the exposure? I can see how some vigorous random exposure of things at the beginning of the exposure could help with a type of texture in the film. Will the scanner pick it up though? Will it give me the typical film look?

i think it depends alot on the shutter, all my lf lenses have black copals and seem to work better with a continuous gentle exposure but my RB67 has Seiko shutters... they seem to work better with inversion exposure - you can really tell a difference especially if you scan the base side of the film... now my Rollieflex T kinda splits the difference and I really shake the hell out of my Minolta SRT101 but i haven't made any prints from that yet lol but soon illl set up my 6x7vcce enlarger and begin the scanning and semistand exposure experimentation protocol.... thank, T!

 

[Bill Burk]

... the fish nibbled on them
the coolieloach snuggled with them
and i wetmount scannned then on the howlertech
using the fishes "slimecoat" as mounting fluid.
gave me ok contrast and michrocontrast and stain
but the grain pattern looked like fish scales.

That's microfische for you. Sheet film meant for extreme high-resolution, the opposite direction you said you wanted to go.

But sometimes these threads end up with someone telling you that to get what you want you should go back to what you were doing before...

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

i think it depends alot on the shutter, all my lf lenses have black copals and seem to work better with a continuous gentle exposure but my RB67 has Seiko shutters... they seem to work better with inversion exposure - you can really tell a difference especially if you scan the base side of the film... now my Rollieflex T kinda splits the difference and I really shake the hell out of my Minolta SRT101 but i haven't made any prints from that yet lol but soon illl set up my 6x7vcce enlarger and begin the scanning and semistand exposure experimentation protocol.... thank, T!

I was asking about film look fer chrissakes. Just answer my question and stop confusing matters. I ask one thing and you answer something else that I'm not prepared to think about. Hello?!

 

[removed account4]

i usually. agitate my film by insulting it ...
you know like " you measley 35mm roll, you
were onlu exposed with a penft, not a leicha or some
other camera i have, besides you are only miniature format
you will never be large format nenur neenur .."
but ive learnrd as of late i should have agitated my largeformat film that way
" you are only large format shot with a 7000$ lens, you will never
be miniature format neenur neenur"

jeeves did it well with that posh accent of his
he was pretty much a sophisticato ...

its strange how sometimes everything is upside down ..
i should have taken my broken ground glass 5 years ago as a clue ..

wish i could help shawn , in not into semi stand ..
thanks bill, micro-fish i like that
mylegs are tired was it dr no who was in the iron lung or
am i thinking of the movie with pickins ( slim?)
hope that isnt comfort with coke( soco that is)
its only 1030am

 

[Shawn Dougherty]

I was asking about film look fer chrissakes. Just answer my question and stop confusing matters. I ask one thing and you answer something else that I'm not prepared to think about. Hello?!

thats the final straw, i'm putting you on ignore, i'll pm you about it...

i usually. agitate my film by insulting it ...
you know like " you measley 35mm roll, you
were onlu exposed with a penft, not a leicha or some
other camera i have, besides you are only miniature format
you will never be large format nenur neenur .."
but ive learnrd as of late i should have agitated my largeformat film that way
" you are only large format shot with a 7000$ lens, you will never
be miniature format neenur neenur"

jeeves did it well with that posh accent of his
he was pretty much a sophisticato ...

i hadn't thought of that approach - and people will probably leave me alone when i'm shooting in public if I'm constantly swearing at and berating my materials great idea nanain

 

[removed account4]

thats the final straw, i'm putting you on ignore, i'll pm you about it...



i hadn't thought of that approach - and people will probably leave me alone when i'm shooting in public if I'm constantly swearing at and berating my materials great idea nanain

yeah it works for gardening with all the co2 given off by the yelling
im sure my yelling, is like co2 burst ... although i hear nitrogen burst works better.
i gotta talk to my pals on the mother ship to see if they can helpme with nitrogen
maybe they can make adjustments ... or maybe bootsy collns can help me out i know he's been in orbit with the mothership for a while
and he's one heck of a imagemaker ... he documented bootzilla years ago it was one heck of a FILM.

 

[jerrybro]

...i'm in the process of moving and noticed that I had a lot of camera stuff and then started wondering if any of it would make better pictures with a semistand exposure? i have 4 tripods so it shouldn't be a problem... the question is weather to throw in any sulfates to reduce the grain... and where to put it of course...

I find that moving during photography is bad and tend to take the semistand approach because my knees are old and often need to lean on something. The grain questions is one I have wrestled with because grain is fiber and fiber is good, both dietary and paper, but grain is also used to make flour and flour is supposed to be bad so I don't know what to do about grain. I don't want to give up grain completely because that would remove bourbon from my list of personal developers.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

I don't want to give up grain completely because that would remove bourbon from my list of personal developers.

Personality developers? I think you're on to something there. Grain is your friend, but keep in mind that bourbon grain aliasing may be damaging to hats.

 

[Shawn Dougherty]

yeah it works for gardening with all the co2 given off by the yelling
im sure my yelling, is like co2 burst ... although i hear nitrogen burst works better.
i gotta talk to my pals on the mother ship to see if they can helpme with nitrogen
maybe they can make adjustments ... or maybe bootsy collns can help me out i know he's been in orbit with the mothership for a while
and he's one heck of a imagemaker ... he documented bootzilla years ago it was one heck of a FILM.

and

I find that moving during photography is bad and tend to take the semistand approach because my knees are old and often need to lean on something. The grain questions is one I have wrestled with because grain is fiber and fiber is good, both dietary and paper, but grain is also used to make flour and flour is supposed to be bad so I don't know what to do about grain. I don't want to give up grain completely because that would remove bourbon from my list of personal developers.

i've given a lot of careful thought to these posts... and decided my next move is gluten free photography...

 

[removed account4]

i've given a lot of careful thought to these posts... and decided my next move is gluten free photography...

you are journeying into uncharted territory shawn
not many people have done that and been able to talk about it later
i hope you take goodnotes, and are very careful because it is the gluten layer
that glues the emulsion to the film. the variety of hardening, staining, graining
developers keep the gluten in check.
if you do indeed go gluten free, put your film in tepid water first, float the emulsion layer off
and use bind it to another substrate ... in the dark of course, and be careful with what you bind it with
because .. well, i am not sure why, just because ..

free range, organic gluten free, is something totally differentthough,
you have to find out which organic it is, local, micro, or macro
stay thirsty

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

and



i've given a lot of careful thought to these posts... and decided my next move is gluten free photography...

I will PM you about ignore lists, you gluton.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

you are journeying into uncharted territory shawn
not many people have done that and been able to talk about it later
i hope you take goodnotes, and are very careful because it is the gluten layer
that glues the emulsion to the film. the variety of hardening, staining, graining
developers keep the gluten in check.
if you do indeed go gluten free, put your film in tepid water first, float the emulsion layer off
and use bind it to another substrate ... in the dark of course, and be careful with what you bind it with
because .. well, i am not sure why, just because ..

free range, organic gluten free, is something totally differentthough,
you have to find out which organic it is, local, micro, or macro
stay thirsty

Glutton free, please. Hold the carbs.

 

[Shawn Dougherty]

...i believe being a glutton for gluten is the cause of my darkleaks...
..........i'm beginning to see a dark at the end of the tunnel...........

 

[bdial]

Glutton free, please. Hold the carbs.

I gave up on carbs a long time ago, and only use fuel injection now. It makes the images flow onto the film much more evenly.
Haven't figured out how to make it work with stand development though.

 

[DREW WILEY]

Anyone interested in a film stretcher? It will take any small format shot and turn it into large format. Invest now. I'm sure a lot of the Photoshop crowd would fall for that kind of thing.

 

[k_jupiter]

I gave up on carbs a long time ago, and only use fuel injection now. It makes the images flow onto the film much more evenly.
Haven't figured out how to make it work with stand development though.

Carbs??? I though he said hold the CATS!

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Anyone interested in a film stretcher? It will take any small format shot and turn it into large format. Invest now. I'm sure a lot of the Photoshop crowd would fall for that kind of thing.

A film shrinker would be better.

 

[DREW WILEY]

I've also filed for a helium-filled bellows patent. The bigger the camera, the less it weighs!

 

[lxdude]

I've also filed for a helium-filled bellows patent. The bigger the camera, the less it weighs!

Get it just right and no tripod is needed!

 

[jerrybro]

So, grain is good. Gluten is bad. Carbs are ok, but fuel injection is better. Developers are needed. As are fixers. If I combine all this with one of my other hobbies, developing fuel injection as a replacement for carbs can be done using a product with a name that I'm afraid to share because of where it will take this thread. But, as some of you do shoot autosports, maybe it is still photographically relevant. Do you know how many photos you've taken of race cars using Megasquirt?

 

[Bill Burk]

Anyone interested in a film stretcher? It will take any small format shot and turn it into large format. Invest now. I'm sure a lot of the Photoshop crowd would fall for that kind of thing.

I gave my son the bacon-stretcher. Seems hazing isn't allowed anymore. Nobody's asked to borrow it in the last 37 years. I keep hoping someone will ask, then my boy will hand it to him and say... "sure - take that to Mr. Griffith"

 

[lxdude]

john i guess it's time to tell you how to get minox pictures with your large format stuff

use microfilm

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

May I suggest a developer made of smoke andouille sausage, sodium metaborate, and velveeta? Think creamy highlights, but full emulsion speed. Bring knives, and pray you don't have to use the fire extinguisher.

 

[Bill Burk]

May I suggest a developer made of smoke andouille sausage.

You know, I only recently learned what smoked andouille sausage was. Package was enticing, brought it home, made pasta with it, served it to the kids. What a shock. Why don't they just say "Cajun" sausage on the package??? Sure I love Gumbo and Boullabase. But I would like to be ready for it. I was expecting a sweet chicken sausage.