Apparently they gave a bunch of them to influencers and youtubers and there is no information about price or where to get it.
Kodak's new single use camera with Tri-X
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Apparently they gave a bunch of them to influencers and youtubers and there is no information about price or where to get it.
Of course, it's Kodak! I'd like to meet the marketing genius who decided that it would be smart to spend some of the advertising budget telling people about a camera, even though there is no known place to buy one, and even if you found a place to buy one, at this time there is the minor issue of 'no camera' to deal with once again. Other than that, nice little camera, wherever it is.
BRILLIANT! Funny that they are marked "Kodak Professional" though. We had one-use cameras at out wedding about 25 years ago; it was great fun for the guests. We probably only saw 2 or 5 good pictures. The rest were whatever drunk partygoers see when they look through their eyes. I recall seeing a pair of boobs that I had never seen before, as well as a rear-end that I couldn't recognize. I think the venue staff helped a bit.
Sorry. I can use the proper anatomical word if that would help.
Nicholas Lindan
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Is Kodak offering processing?
The example photos are waaaay better than I expected!
https://www.facebook.com/kodakprofessionalfilm
https://www.facebook.com/kodakprofessionalfilm
MattKing
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kodakprofessional is Kodak Alaris.
Here is their website page for all their single use cameras: https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/photographers/film/single-use-cameras
As they don't sell to retailers, they are depending on their distributor customers to get it out to the world.
The Instagram link lists a number of links to users who have commented on it.
As an example, Silvergrainclassics, who make it clear that the camera is reloadable, and the batteries can be replaced. https://silvergrainclassics.com/en/...-the-new-kodak-single-use-black-white-camera/
Basically, it does the same job as my first ever camera: my Kodak Starmite, with built in motor wind and electronic flash.
Here is their website page for all their single use cameras: https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/photographers/film/single-use-cameras
As they don't sell to retailers, they are depending on their distributor customers to get it out to the world.
The Instagram link lists a number of links to users who have commented on it.
As an example, Silvergrainclassics, who make it clear that the camera is reloadable, and the batteries can be replaced. https://silvergrainclassics.com/en/...-the-new-kodak-single-use-black-white-camera/
Basically, it does the same job as my first ever camera: my Kodak Starmite, with built in motor wind and electronic flash.
Now I’m really interested!
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This is from silvergrainclassics:
"The camera can be opened easily...During this process, several advantages presented themselves. The camera spools the film into the cartridge so that if something goes wrong and you need to open the camera before you are at the end of the roll, the shots you have made will be saved. Also, although it is sold as a single use camera, it could easily be reloaded, and even the batteries could be replaced."
https://silvergrainclassics.com/en/...-the-new-kodak-single-use-black-white-camera/
So are these plastic cameras going to end up in the trash or not?
It looks as if they were trying to push the younger photographers into black and white given that color films are being discontinued. "Perfect for story telling" says Kodak.
[edit] @MattKing I guess I posted while you were posting [/edit]
"The camera can be opened easily...During this process, several advantages presented themselves. The camera spools the film into the cartridge so that if something goes wrong and you need to open the camera before you are at the end of the roll, the shots you have made will be saved. Also, although it is sold as a single use camera, it could easily be reloaded, and even the batteries could be replaced."
https://silvergrainclassics.com/en/...-the-new-kodak-single-use-black-white-camera/
So are these plastic cameras going to end up in the trash or not?
It looks as if they were trying to push the younger photographers into black and white given that color films are being discontinued. "Perfect for story telling" says Kodak.
[edit] @MattKing I guess I posted while you were posting [/edit]
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Absolutely, they will. Batteries and all if the lab doesn't care and doesn't have a recycling partner to send them to. They're just as reloadable as any other 'one time use' camera but when you drop one off at Wally World, they won't give you the camera back. What would any non-photographer consumer know about reloading these cameras? They're pretty easy to zap your fingers on the flash capacitor, too.
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And I get influencer marketing. Make it desirable, and sometimes rare is desirable. Only the cool kids can get one now, you can be cool, too, if you're lucky.
MattKing
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Kodak used to recycle the one use cameras. I don't know why they wouldn't continue to build that into the infrastructure.
One-use cameras are nothing new - there are bunch of them to buy from Kodak, Ilford, Fuji.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Kodak Single Use Cameras&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0UxUuslsKCbhrx-sYwO_QnkQ-VuqB-8aenFq68l2qQ-49RD2GB1dMYaAlwIEALw_wcB
What's new is Tri-X. It may not be out for sale yet because they're trying them out with influenecers first to see if it's viable. If they get a good response, then maybe we'll see them in the stores. They probably call them Professional because only pros use BW.
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That's the reason why you can't buy Tri-X in 35mm these days, it went to the influencers...I mean into the new cameras.
MattKing
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All Kodak Black and White still films are sold through the Kodak Alaris professional film division, along with the Portra and Ektar colour still films.They probably call them Professional because only pros use BW.
The consumer film division handles the Gold and Color Plus films, which are often distributed through different distributors.
In many countries this is illegal. Then already the seller of such camera must take back the used battery.
I haven't seen the new Kodak single use camera but from the photo posted, the body looks similar to the colour model.
IIRC the film is on the opposite side to the battery ( looking at the back of the camera the film is on the right and the battery on the left) and this should cut down on the likelihood of getting a shock from a fully charged capacitor.
I don't believe these cameras can be easily reloaded as you break open the film compartment (it is not hinged) and it won't reclose properly. I know Ilford had at one time a single-use and a reusable camera, two separate cameras.
Back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, single-use cameras were collected for "recycling" from labs. I think some of the "recycling" was more to stop empty single-use cameras being shipped to China to be reloaded and sealed with black tape( Fuji Ireland tried this). Other "recycling" was to collect cameras for shipping to China. I remember one independent film distributor offered, the lab, €0.05 per camera body collected
IIRC the film is on the opposite side to the battery ( looking at the back of the camera the film is on the right and the battery on the left) and this should cut down on the likelihood of getting a shock from a fully charged capacitor.
I don't believe these cameras can be easily reloaded as you break open the film compartment (it is not hinged) and it won't reclose properly. I know Ilford had at one time a single-use and a reusable camera, two separate cameras.
Back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, single-use cameras were collected for "recycling" from labs. I think some of the "recycling" was more to stop empty single-use cameras being shipped to China to be reloaded and sealed with black tape( Fuji Ireland tried this). Other "recycling" was to collect cameras for shipping to China. I remember one independent film distributor offered, the lab, €0.05 per camera body collected
4% of the cameras will contain a steel-capped Tri-X cassette.
The other 96% will be solid gold.
Small aside: anyone had to lever off a steel cap from a 35mm roll yet? Seems like it may be more difficult than the older aluminum ones.
The other 96% will be solid gold.
Small aside: anyone had to lever off a steel cap from a 35mm roll yet? Seems like it may be more difficult than the older aluminum ones.
This is an interesting product. I might pick up one or two a year. I don’t know how well it will go over with new users s B&W development is not locally available in many areas.
If these are "ordinary" single use cameras, one would need a darkroom or changing bag and patience to reload. You sure couldn't just pop in a new roll of film. As noted the film spools into an empty cassette.
I think the Ilford branded reloadable camera with a roll of fresh Tri-X would be easier if you want to reuse.
Given that Ilford have been having some success selling single use cameras loaded with HP5+ for some years, there must be a market.
And giving some out to people with large social media followings is a good idea....get the word out. Show people what B&W film can do. People who would otherwise never see Tri-X will now see it. A few of them will try shooting film themselves. Kodak has always been about bringing photography to the ordinary person.
And giving some out to people with large social media followings is a good idea....get the word out. Show people what B&W film can do. People who would otherwise never see Tri-X will now see it. A few of them will try shooting film themselves. Kodak has always been about bringing photography to the ordinary person.
Nicholas Lindan
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"Sell to the masses, not the classes."
I like the idea, although I have to pause when I see the amount of packaging, shipping, recycling-or-trashing, etc that happens with products like single use cameras. It seems wasteful to me, but perhaps a positive experience with this product will generate interest to upgrade to a more traditional camera.
Tri-X @ 1/125 and f10 seems like it would make a dense negative on a sunny day at the beach, but maybe that's the compromise for achieving decent indoor flash images. The sample images on the social accounts look quite good to me.
Edit: I dropped a few of the sample images into Photoshop and there are blown out skies and bright surfaces as you would expect given the aperture and shutter speed. Not a big deal considering the use of the camera.
Tri-X @ 1/125 and f10 seems like it would make a dense negative on a sunny day at the beach, but maybe that's the compromise for achieving decent indoor flash images. The sample images on the social accounts look quite good to me.
Edit: I dropped a few of the sample images into Photoshop and there are blown out skies and bright surfaces as you would expect given the aperture and shutter speed. Not a big deal considering the use of the camera.
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Do you mean that Kodak Alaris doesn't sell the Gold and Color Plus films? That film wasn't included in the bankruptcy settlement?
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