Kodak will ONLY be selling sheet film in 10 sheet boxes from now on.
They're preparing for bankruptcy again - one time is not enough,69 euros for 10 sheets of Portra160......yeah i'm not rich enough for that
Yes, that's what I read also. Unfortunately, I think the folks above are insinuating that there will only be 10 sheet boxes or none at all since the cost is to high. I've switched to Iford for the bulk of my B&W work. I refuse to pay that much difference in cost for the yellow brand. It's a sad day since I think this is a "shot in the foot" type move on Kodak Alaris's part. Of course they might not have a choice in this. It could be their film supplier is gouging them with high price film stock????? Either way, I'm happy with Ilford.I have heard (on another forum) that Kodak will continue to sell 50 sheet boxes, at least in the near-term. I cannot, personally, confirm or deny it though.
Yes, that's what I read also. Unfortunately, I think the folks above are insinuating that there will only be 10 sheet boxes or none at all since the cost is to high. I've switched to Iford for the bulk of my B&W work. I refuse to pay that much difference in cost for the yellow brand. It's a sad day since I think this is a "shot in the foot" type move on Kodak Alaris's part. Of course they might not have a choice in this. It could be their film supplier is gouging them with high price film stock????? Either way, I'm happy with Ilford.
I have heard (on another forum) that Kodak will continue to sell 50 sheet boxes, at least in the near-term. I cannot, personally, confirm or deny it though.
You've managed to put a good spin on what is mostly a bad thing, IMO. Kodak will ONLY be selling sheet film in 10 sheet boxes from now on. That is my understanding.
Let the maligning begin/continueAm I the last one to hear that Kodak (yes the much maligned Kodak)
Post #59 in the same thread as the earlier Kodak Alaris email quote:
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Email I just received from Kodak Alaris...
Dear Andrew,
Some good news to share. We have decided to maintain availability of the 50 sheet-4 x 5 black and white film items along with the new 10 sheet items for the time being.
Best regards,
Thomas J. Mooney | Film Capture Business Manager
Kodak Alaris Inc., 2400 Mount Read Blvd., Rochester, NY 14615-03020
thomas.j.mooney@kodakalaris.com | Office: 585.310.5776 | Mobile: 585.520.2639
www.kodakalaris.com
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Good news, eh!
Just over three weeks between the emails. Both were in January 2017.
Kodak, including Thomas Mooney, can be 100% trusted to respond to the market. If 10-sheet boxes sell well and 50-sheet boxes don't, count on the 50-sheet boxes being discontinued. It will all be determined by film purchasers, not Kodak....So obviously Mooney can't be trusted...
Kodak, including Thomas Mooney, can be 100% trusted to respond to the market. If 10-sheet boxes sell well and 50-sheet boxes don't, count on the 50-sheet boxes being discontinued. It will all be determined by film purchasers, not Kodak.
Now we will be able to try all three of these films for about the same price as one 50 sheet box of any one of these films.
Kodak, including Thomas Mooney, can be 100% trusted to respond to the market. If 10-sheet boxes sell well and 50-sheet boxes don't, count on the 50-sheet boxes being discontinued. It will all be determined by film purchasers, not Kodak.
I'm the last person who ought be described as a corporate defender. In venues far and wide where discussion of such matters is allowed, including the Soap Box here, I'm as anti-corporatist an individual as you'll ever find.Thank you Sal, our pro bono corporate defender. I don't know what we'd do without you. We might find ourselves occasionally believing that corporations make poor decisions that aren't in the best interests of consumers or themselves, but its good to keep being reminded otherwise...
They made a decision. They received subsequent feedback from users. They modified their decision to help meet the concerns of the users. And the change happened quickly.Ah thanks, I didnt read that far. So obviously Mooney can't be trusted.
Corporations are motivated by profit, nothing else. Prices are set by the market, nothing else. The people running corporations can and do err. When that happens, best interests of their employers are not served. Determination of whether they've erred is made by the market, e.g. consumers of large format sheet film.
I think the new packaging was announced before the date of the first email, but I am not sure how long before.So based on the two Mooney's statements Kodak Alaris changed its mind in as little as 3 weeks. I would have thought that there would not be enough adverse consumer reaction in such a short time frame to justify such a "volte-face".
They made a decision. They received subsequent feedback from users. They modified their decision to help meet the concerns of the users. And the change happened quickly.
Seems worthy of trust to me.
Perhaps you would prefer Kodak Alaris' answers to questions posed as part of the Emulsive newsletter question and answer session:You are free to interpret it that way. I noted he also used the phrase "for the time being". Sal's reminders notwithstanding, we all know products are on the market "for the time being" so its interesting he made a point of mentioning it.
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