Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

[Andrew O'Neill]

It's on the way, a whole container full. It's in the blue one, third from the end
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Isn't that the ship that's wedged in the Suez Canal?

 

[mshchem]

Isn't that the ship that's wedged in the Suez Canal?

Oh now that you mention it I do believe it is. But don't worry, once they gets the bow out of the mud, the XTOL will be out ASAP!

 

[mshchem]

You’re gonna need a bigger boat.

I don't know, maybe we could hire a pirate.

 

[radiant]

Xtol seems to be back in stock at Fotoimpex? I assume this is new batch?

https://www.fotoimpex.com/chemistry/kodak-xtol-powder-developer-to-mix-5000-ml.html

 

[Donald Qualls]

Still not in stock at Freestyle. Perhaps theirs is in a container somewhere in the Pacific, including my replacement bags?

 

[mshchem]

So is this from the same vendor? Is it still made in the EU? Made in China? Any changes in packaging?

 

[radiant]

So is this from the same vendor? Is it still made in the EU? Made in China? Any changes in packaging?

@ADOX Fotoimpex can you enlighten us on this?

 

[MattKing]

FWIW, most of the Kodak Photo-chemical information has now been moved from Kodak Alaris' website to a website created and maintained by Sino Promise. They have also edited the data-sheets linked to there to remove the references to Kodak Alaris.
The website address is here - kodaksino.com https://www.kodaksino.com/
The badging on the data sheets refers only to KODAK • ROCHESTER, NY 14615 - which if I recall correctly is the same zip code as the Kodak Alaris offices in Rochester used to have.
There is no longer any reference to the X-Tol problem on either the Kodak Alaris website or the Kodak Sino Promise website.
Strangely enough, there are still links to some of the black and white photochemical data sheets on the Kodak Alaris website - and the versions linked to there still have Kodak Alaris references.

 

[MattKing]

That is because you are going through the Great Britain route to their website.
The Kodak Alaris website has always been incredibly complex, because it is set up to direct the user according to where they are accessing it from. Normally that works well, but sometimes when they edit things, the edits don't "take" everywhere.
This is the link that I've always used to take me to where the information on chemicals used to be found: https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/photographers-photo-printing/resources/techenvironment
No links remain there to the chemicals.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I'm sure the replacement packages will arrive soon... My Xtol-R is still going strong, and I have several packages on hand so I'm not worried.

 

[mshchem]

I'm not sure what's next. I'm glad that analog film is growing. Hopefully this will all work out well.

 

[radiant]

I received replacement Xtol bags. The bags look like the old design? Expiration is 2024-02 ..

 

[MattKing]

Whose name is on the bottom left - Kodak Alaris?
And where does it say they are made?
Thanks in advance

 

[radiant]

Whose name is on the bottom left - Kodak Alaris?
And where does it say they are made?
Thanks in advance

Made in Germany. Kodak Alaris Inc. (C) 2016

 

[warden]

Made in Germany. Kodak Alaris Inc. (C) 2016

Well that's interesting. ;-)

 

[Donald Qualls]

Made in Germany. Kodak Alaris Inc. (C) 2016

No wonder it looks like the old packaging.

 

[NB23]

Whose name is on the bottom left - Kodak Alaris?
And where does it say they are made?
Thanks in advance

I started a thread a few weeks back, which got totally ignored, about new D76 bags looking like the old ones made from the thicker plastic... sinopromise.

Same bag and size except no yellow. All white.

 

[toyoboyo]

Did you get a message from SinoPromise before they sent out the replacements? I'm still waiting to hear back after their initial response

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Did you get a message from SinoPromise before they sent out the replacements? I'm still waiting to hear back after their initial response

I still haven't seen anything from Sino Promise (Kodak).

 

[mshchem]

Maybe the product is off quality HOLD. Probably just new date code. This product amounts to 1 part per bazillion of sales. After all this mess, it would be a miracle to ever make a profit again,

 

[AgX]

Maybe the product is off quality HOLD. Probably just new date code.

What do you mean by this?
If a product is on hold, one would not put a new date on it.

 

[mshchem]

What do you mean by this?
If a product is on hold, one would not put a new date on it.

They would if it was being packaged from bulk .

 

[AgX]

I think this was a language issue.
I read: "the product is (in) off quality HOLD"
You meant: "the product is off (from) quality HOLD"

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Did you get a message from SinoPromise before they sent out the replacements? I'm still waiting to hear back after their initial response

I still haven't seen anything from Sino Promise (Kodak).

The above mentioned replacement ot XTOL might originate from us. Whoever bought from FOTOIMPEX and claimed their XTOL has received either an XT-3 or XTOL replacement by now. I do not know if Kodak has started shipping their own replacements yet.

 

[radiant]

The above mentioned replacement ot XTOL might originate from us. Whoever bought from FOTOIMPEX and claimed their XTOL has received either an XT-3 or XTOL replacement by now. I do not know if Kodak has started shipping their own replacements yet.

Yes my replacement was from you. (I would have preffered XT-3 instead of XTOL )