Yeah? I wondered if it might be Adox??? I have no idea. The New XTOL I got the first time worked just fine. It was different, much lower dust. I wondered if the vendor was using the same technology that Adox is using with fixer powder.The problem batches are probably made by new Tetenal - they are made in Germany.
I wonder whether the problems are all related to the packaging.
When Tetenal went under, they may very well have owed a bunch of money to a supplier of the formerly used bags.
Sort of like how when Kodak went under, Champion was a huge unpaid creditor and suffered horribly.
Fascinating, when I go in it shows 2 powder film developers and Bromophen out of stock?The direct to customer sales site for the United Kingdom shows Bromophen as in-stock: https://www.ilfordphoto.com/1960549
The plot gets even thicker. I used your link, it shows Bromophen in stock, I signed in using my existing account, opened the chemistry page which show several items out of stock. Microphen, DD, Bromophen and several others Oy what a pain. B&H shows Bromophen as in-stock, but of course for some inexplicable reason, in store pick up.The direct to customer sales site for the United Kingdom shows Bromophen as in-stock: https://www.ilfordphoto.com/1960549
The plot gets even thicker. I used your link, it shows Bromophen in stock, I signed in using my existing account, opened the chemistry page which show several items out of stock. Microphen, DD, Bromophen and several others Oy what a pain. B&H shows Bromophen as in-stock, but of course for some inexplicable reason, in store pick up.
Nuts!
Great. Both bags. Freestyle. *Sigh*
haven't made any of the MYtol derivatives but Freestyle sells the eco ascorbic acid developer that's supposed to be like XTOLI am aware of one processing lab that used to use Xtol exclusively for processing customer film, but since the previous Xtol recall, they switched to D-76 and have no plan to switch back for the foreseeable future. At this point, I am ready to start making my own Xtol. Anyone know where I can find a definitive recipe for an Xtol equivalent? I see many recipes, and few agree on proportions.
haven't made any of the MYtol derivatives but Freestyle sells the eco ascorbic acid developer that's supposed to be like XTOL
Yeah, I looked last night, FS is out of a couple standard things, maybe they are getting more businessI looked - its not in stock for at least a week. But thanks. At this point I think DIY is the better choice.
Old Tetenal already was able to do so long ago.Yeah? I wondered if it might be Adox??? I have no idea. The New XTOL I got the first time worked just fine. It was different, much lower dust. I wondered if the vendor was using the same technology that Adox is using with fixer powder.
all things considered it is far easier to scratch mix D-76 than XTOL and get nearly/virtually the same results (same tonality, very slightly different image structure).
I think it may be an EU mandate to reduce emissions. Adox inferred that this technology reduced the complexity of their new plant. Adox should jump on this and make some new product offerings.Old Tetenal already was able to do so long ago.
All true! I wouldn't try to make XTOL, but D-76 sure is a great developer and easy to make.The closest formula would be the one in the patent.
However the nagging issue when scratch mixing anything with ascorbate is preventing the dreaded Fenton reaction (premature oxidation of ascorbate). You need the right iron sequestering agent, or else it will be difficult to predict shelf life.
Alternatively, D-76/ID-11 is very close to XTOL in working characteristics. XTOL is my favourite developer, and rather importantly in the history of black and white chemistry, was basically the first (and last) developer to improve on the D-76 speed-grain-sharpness balance. But the improvements are pretty small, so all things considered it is far easier to scratch mix D-76 than XTOL and get nearly/virtually the same results (same tonality, very slightly different image structure).
I rather assume granulating as added step in manufacture was not applied before for any photochemical product by any manufacturer (tablets aside) as by them no need was seen at consumer side.I think it may be an EU mandate to reduce emissions. Adox inferred that this technology reduced the complexity of their new plant. Adox should jump on this and make some new product offerings.
The closest formula would be the one in the patent.
However the nagging issue when scratch mixing anything with ascorbate is preventing the dreaded Fenton reaction (premature oxidation of ascorbate). You need the right iron sequestering agent, or else it will be difficult to predict shelf life.
Alternatively, D-76/ID-11 is very close to XTOL in working characteristics. XTOL is my favourite developer, and rather importantly in the history of black and white chemistry, was basically the first (and last) developer to improve on the D-76 speed-grain-sharpness balance. But the improvements are pretty small, so all things considered it is far easier to scratch mix D-76 than XTOL and get nearly/virtually the same results (same tonality, very slightly different image structure).
What are you talking about?
I've used the Eco-Pro/Legacy-Pro. It is identical to X-Tol. B&H lists it in stock.haven't made any of the MYtol derivatives but Freestyle sells the eco ascorbic acid developer that's supposed to be like XTOL
I’m not sure what that has to do with maturity, the value of my photographs, or anything I wrote lol.
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