FWIW, I just received a new batch from Freestyle. It's a new design with what looks like foil and has Sinopromise on the packaging.
Some of the product replacement is being done through those retailers, with whom they at least have already in existence systems for providing product. So I have no problem with product appearing there quickly if they are also in the process of getting product out to individuals in very short order.
As the shipping will probably be through all the individual international offices, I expect the receipt times will vary throughout the world.When I emailed KA/Sino recently, I got a response that said "All XTOL replacement orders are in the system and will be shipped. No date for shipping is available.", which I interpret to mean "It'll happen eventually, not sure when though".
If I were SinoPromise then in order to signal a change I'd want to have a new design that I presume drops the name Kodak. The chemicals are nothing to do with Kodak anyway and I am sure that the problems of what is hopefully the past are not ones that the current Kodak company , a film manufacturer only, would want associated with its nameFWIW, I just received a new batch from Freestyle. It's a new design with what looks like foil and has Sinopromise on the packaging.
No, we destroyed all remaining "trade concern"-XTOL and we took back customers product as well. The new XTOL was sent by Kodak for replacing customers like you. From our first impression they are better than the trade concern batches and thus we forewarded them. All shipping and handling was covered by FOTOIMPEX btw. We also offered a refund if people did not want to wait for their replacement. I agree with Matt that sending product to dealers is probably the fastest way to get it to those who are affected since we have end user distribution in place.So I have received pre-plastic bag version then. Wonder where they have digged up old bagsOr maybe it was from Fotoimpex secret stashes!
I don’t know. Am I a bad person if this is just one step too far away from the old Kodak and I drop their chemicals? I’ve used D-76, Dektol, XTOL forever.
They would drop XTOL before they would drop Kodak. Kodak (the brand) is the only thing of value. The color negative paper that had been made in Harrow, then Colorado by Carestream for US and EU(?) was a premium product. I'm not going to go out of my way to buy a China made "Kodak" color negative paper. It's a whole new ballgame now. I have enough Tetenal XTOL I won't be rushing out to buy anything. But I wouldn't be likely to be buying a Sino product. Lately I've been using Adox Rodinal, which is a GREAT developer.If I were SinoPromise then in order to signal a change I'd want to have a new design that I presume drops the name Kodak. The chemicals are nothing to do with Kodak anyway and I am sure that the problems of what is hopefully the past are not ones that the current Kodak company , a film manufacturer only, would want associated with its name
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Very strange. Kodak Alaris website, made in USA for Sino Promise, with the UK address of Alaris, and the Rochester office of Alaris. May be that Sino Promise is retaining the few employees left in the appropriate time zones??Still has the Kodak Alaris website address, so these were created prior to Sino Promise getting their Kodak Professional website up and running.
It also has "Made in USA", which is a change from the last, "trade issue" "Made in Germany" product.
Who knows? Who cares. Everyone seems to forget that Kodak went bankrupt years ago, and they're no longer a multi-billion global concern with a near lock on the film photography industry-- because the film photography industry of that era doesn't exist any more. Expecting Kodak, Ilford, Adox, Tetanal, or anyone else to behave like nothing's changed is just mental.
We've gone from consumers of a mainstream global industry to a niche market. Expecting anything other than bumps along the way is naive.
Use what you want. I'm just tired of people whining that Kodak isn't like it was when George Eastman ran it.
I do know that not supporting the existing film / chemical companies will not lead to any new products being developed or delivered.
You are missing the point that the anti Kodak rants have nothing to do with logic and facts. ...
As I understand it, they have retained the Kodak Alaris employees (most of whom were former employees of Eastman Kodak or the many international subsidiaries of Eastman Kodak).May be that Sino Promise is retaining the few employees left in the appropriate time zones??
You are missing the point that the anti Kodak rants have nothing to do with logic and facts.
Fact: I've been using Kodak products for over 50 years.
Fact: Lately some of the Kodak products are poorly manufactured and are not satisfactory.
Logic: I buy alternative products now.
That's a good thing.As I understand it, they have retained the Kodak Alaris employees (most of whom were former employees of Eastman Kodak or the many international subsidiaries of Eastman Kodak).
The former zip code of Kodak Alaris in Rochester NY - their international headquarters - continues to be the zipcode of the Kodak Professional unit employees at Sino Promise.
No, we destroyed all remaining "trade concern"-XTOL and we took back customers product as well. The new XTOL was sent by Kodak for replacing customers like you. From our first impression they are better than the trade concern batches and thus we forewarded them. All shipping and handling was covered by FOTOIMPEX btw. We also offered a refund if people did not want to wait for their replacement. I agree with Matt that sending product to dealers is probably the fastest way to get it to those who are affected since we have end user distribution in place.
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