Well, here we are at February 17th and nothing in my mailbox from Kodak. From the email I received from "ProPaperChem": "expect the replacement product to be sent to you by mid-February". I suppose that could be interpreted to mean it will SHIP by mid-February, and so I should allow for a few days transit.
This sounds right to me. I've been using the Sino Promise C41 and RA4 for several years, I'm a decidedly non-professional, so can't speak to the commercial market. Based on my experience with the color chemistry, I have little doubt that Sino Promise will deliver, eventually.Hello Adrian,
completely agreed. Sino Promise Holdings now owns the chemical plant in China in which the colour chemistry is produced. They can produce at lower costs there because of lower wages, less protection and rights for the workers, less environmental protection (all compared to USA, Europe, Japan etc.). And they have the booming Asian markets in "near distance". They would not have bought the assets from Kodak Alaris if they would not have the plan to continue that business.
Well that is fortunately completely wrong. Even if they would stop production of the colour chemicals, it would have no negative effect on the film revival. The film revival would simply continue at the same speed. Because we don't have any bottleneck or lack in colour chemical production. As producers we have
1. Fuji Hunt.They are running at least four factories worldwide (in the USA, Belgium, Singapore, Japan). So they can produce locally in the markets (shorter transportation distances) and at highest worker protection and environmental standards.
2. Tetenal (Germany).
3. Bellini (Italy)
4. Chugai (Japan)
5. CPAC Asia Imaging (afaik chemistry production is in China, but I am not 100% sure).
6. I know of two other photo chemistry producers who could enter the market if it would be needed.
Those of you in USA, who want to support local production and American workers, and want chemistry produced at highest environmental standards, have this option by using Fuji Hunt (because they are producing for the American markets in the US).
Those of us Europeans who have similar priorities have this option by using Fuji Hunt (produced in Belgium for the European markets), Tetenal (Germany) or Bellini (Italy).
If you are located in Asian countries or in Japan, you have this option by using Fuji Hunt or Chugai.
I have close contacts to several professional labs. And I am talking of long-established (up to 70 years) professional labs here, with several employees, who are offering
- C41, E6 and BW film processing
- often done in dip-and-dunk processing machines
- real photo paper, silver-halide / RA-4 prints
- scans in several options up to high-res scans
- large format prints, including RA-4.
So these guys are extremely experienced, and have also been working a lot for professional photographers and big companies.
Some of them have been extremely loyal Kodak customers for decades. These have all switched to Fuji Hunt chemistry now. Because of
- better quality
- lower costs.
They have also switched to Fujifilm RA-4 papers, because the supply of Kodak papers has become very unreliable.
Concerning the Kodak BW chemistry I am very relaxed. Because I know some replacements by an established photo chemistry manufacturer are in the works. I have also already done some beta-testing of it, and the results have even been better in some parameters compared to the original Kodak chemistry.
Best regards,
Henning
Donald we will see if it is one shot...no problem working with TEA...is there something I should be aware of??Of course, with that formula there is the issue working with TEA. Not to mention this is one-shot, mixed to working strength (equivalent to Xtol 1+1?), and isn't amenable to long term storage and replenishment. Damn Fenton, anyway!
Does anyone know what the problem with these batches are?
You're seriously contacting them every day? And on multiple platforms?Nope. I bug them on IG every few days. The responded once and said to send another e-mail (so I did, no reply to that one either). I also tweet them every-day. I even started reaching out to YouTube influencers to see if maybe they can bug Andy Church to try and get us at least SOMETHING. Not a peep I'm afraid.
Has anyone received news or updates about the replacement batch that is supposed to come out?
I was told I'd be sent new product "by mid February". I've received nothing, and all of my followup emails have been met with a stony silence.
You're seriously contacting them every day? And on multiple platforms?
Heh yeah. Not sure what else to do. I just need to know when, even if it's a wild estimate. If it's going to be 6 months, I can manage, but then I at least know I need to have an alternative (and to use out my replenished solution instead of having it sit there aging) and it's worth spending time doing film tests and things. But if it was a week or two, I can probably wait. It's the lack of information, and lack of care of Kodak's customers, that's honestly pretty upsetting. I just don't know of any other way to get their attention (though of note, it hasn't worked so far).
I agree. It's starting to look like I need to work on pricing high-purity, iron-free sodium sulfite and borax to make Mytol that lasts.
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