Kodak Tmax 8x10, 400 and 100, discontinued.

[removed account4]

same story, different day ..

it is unfortunate but the harsh reality is that they can't make the film
and make a profit if there are so few people buying it. kodak has had
a long long history of doing this, even before those number-cameras cameras came about .. vc pan, royal pan, super xx ... there is a long list ...
if they can't make a certain amount of profit, it makes no business sense to keep producing whatever it might be.

unfortunately business is business ...

 

[SWphoto]

hold on a second here-- I recall reading that kodak was moving the larger than 4x5 film to special order system via canham camera (http://www.canhamcameras.com/kodakfilm.html) and others, so discontinued is a bit of a misnomer no?

That was the films they discontinued in various sheet film sizes (such as the now-discontinued TMY-2 in 5x7/8x10).

Films in 8x10 such as Ektar 100 and Portra 400 are available through regular channels, without the need to place a special order with a minimum of $15,000.

That said, aren't there enough 8x10 shooters around to create a special order of TMY-2, which seems to be kind of a staple?

 

[Mahler_one]

Mirko: Is there any further information about the Adox 400 film that was referenced on this thread? Will it be "more sturdy" then the current Adox Fine Art Film, and thus less prone to scratching when processed in trays?

 

[Mahler_one]

Sorry Mirko...will the new film be available in sheet film including 8x10?

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Will it be "more sturdy" then the current Adox Films

Yes. one of the reasons why we call the current films "Art Series" and the new films "Premium Line".


Mirko

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Sorry Mirko...will the new film be available in sheet film including 8x10?

Yes ofcourse. Once it is finished in reasearch, scale up and ready for coating we will coat 35mm, 120 and sheetfilm base.
For us it is no problem to manufacture and keep various sizes in stock because we have a short supply chain.

Our way of making sheet films sets the minimum production amount to about 25 packs of 8x10.

This is very flexible.

Mirko

 

[squinonescolon]

Looks like it's probable that Adox might be the last man standing. ;-)

 

[Shawn Dougherty]

Yes, interested in the Adox400 when it is available in 4x5 and 120....

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

For us it is no problem to manufacture and keep various sizes in stock because we have a short supply chain.

Our way of making sheet films sets the minimum production amount to about 25 packs of 8x10.

This is very flexible.

:w00t: ...

Ken

 

[Ian Grant]

Remember that Kodak's marketing and sales are now extremely poor in many parts of the world except for consumer C41 films. I had to stop using Tmax in any format as it was near impossible to find in South America and the Aegean region.

On the other hand Ilford and surprisingly Foam products are every where. So Globally Kodak's lost proportionally far more sales than competitors.

Ian

 

[jgjbowen]

Well it kind of works like this:

Yesterday President O reduced my 2011 SS taxes. Today I spent those savings, and more, on 8x10 TMY. Well, SOMEBODY has to stimulate this economy

 

[michaelbsc]

It ain't signed into law yet buddy. The left wing loons and the rabid right are still gonna fight. To the detriment of the majority.

 

[lxdude]

So did anyone else notice that Kodak Plus-X film has now been relegated to also-ran status on Kodak's Professional Black & White Films webpage?

It's now listed way down at the bottom under the heading "Other Black and White Films" along with T-MAX P3200, and now merits only two lonely sentences of product information description. It's also conspicuously missing from the "Traditional" black & white films section of Kodak's online store - as is P3200 from the "T-Max" section.

I wonder why that is?

Maybe it's Kodak's way of trying to sell more of it?

Ken

That is weird. Why not just show them the same way as the others?

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

That is weird. Why not just show them the same way as the others?

Because non-marketing is just as powerful as marketing when it comes to moving demand?

Ken

 

[Curt]

Fishhook!

 

[Sirius Glass]

Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!

I have not gotten over that fact that now this I got into LF with two 4x5 cameras, Kodak no longer makes Tri-X 400 in 4x5!

Kodak is moving away from slides and ceding that territory to Fuji while Fuji is moving away from C-41 and ceding that territory to Kodak!

At times I feel like I am sinking in quicksand during an earthquake!

 

[JLP]

Hmmmm, When did Kodak make Tri-X 400 in 4x5?

 

[michaelbsc]

Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!

I have not gotten over that fact that now this I got into LF with two 4x5 cameras, Kodak no longer makes Tri-X 400 in 4x5!

Kodak is moving away from slides and ceding that territory to Fuji while Fuji is moving away from C-41 and ceding that territory to Kodak!

At times I feel like I am sinking in quicksand during an earthquake!

And Ilford is still trying to fend off the little guys from capturing too much of the B&W market that both Kodak and Fuji are abandoning.



Buy film. Who is around here that says it\'s never too early to panic?



MB

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Who is around here that says it's never too early to panic?

Dunno... might want to (there was a url link here which no longer exists) about that...



Ken

 

[Sirius Glass]

Hmmmm, When did Kodak make Tri-X 400 in 4x5?

If they did not, then they should have!

 

[MattKing]

So did anyone else notice that Kodak Plus-X film has now been relegated to also-ran status on Kodak's Professional Black & White Films webpage?

It's now listed way down at the bottom under the heading "Other Black and White Films" along with T-MAX P3200, and now merits only two lonely sentences of product information description. It's also conspicuously missing from the "Traditional" black & white films section of Kodak's online store - as is P3200 from the "T-Max" section.

I wonder why that is?

Maybe it's Kodak's way of trying to sell more of it?

Ken

I can't explain this, but I first noticed it just about when I joined APUG (is it really 5 years ago?).

I don't know how long it had been that way before I noticed it.

It hasn't stopped me from buying and using the film.

I don't think Kodak has ever really got away mentally from the era when the local camera store was a dealer, had access to all products at reasonable prices, and was an enthusiastic marketer of Kodak products.

 

[Mahler_one]

Good news Mirko!!!! Any idea as to when the film will be available in 8x10. Probably via Freestyle?

 

[Mahler_one]

Well done Ken!...creative use of the smiley faces....

 

[Mahler_one]

Well it kind of works like this:

Yesterday President O reduced my 2011 SS taxes. Today I spent those savings, and more, on 8x10 TMY. Well, SOMEBODY has to stimulate this economy

I just "clicked to" several dealers that sell the TMax 400 on line.....within a few hours of this thread being established and amplified, the supply of the film they had on hand has apparently been sold out. Who knows if they will be able to order any more. I had checked their supply BEFORE posting the discontinuation notice, and there was film to be ordered. I have no idea how many boxes they had on hand, but talk about 'the power of the internet"....gone in just a few hours...amazing.

 

[aldevo]

I would have figured TMY would be the last film standing. It's strange to me that they will be coating TXP and not TMY. Isn't 8x10 and 4x5 cut from the same roll?

Maybe they aren't coating TXP...merely that the TMY master rolls were depleted before the TXP ones.

Raw material costs for film have been going to the moon (and not just silver, all the rare earth metals needed for panchromatic sensitivity have become increasingly expensive). You really have to wonder how much longer film is going to be viable for Kodak now. It's got nothing to do with the "New Business Model" - there just isn't much demand and the costs simply must be sky-rocketing.