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An odd ebay buy, a Crown Graphic 2x3 came with a Series VI slip-on adapter ring (two-part) and a mating Kodak series VI hood.

I read that the filter should be sandwiched between to main adapter body and the thin ring. Correct?
(the recess part of adapter is around 40+mm in diameter)

I am stupidly short of hoods, and I wonder if the above could be the start of a hood adapting for, say, Bay 1, for my new to me Autocord?
 
You can use the hood as the retaining ring. So lens> adapter> filter> hood. No need to use an extra retaining between the filter and hood. Unless you want to remove hood and keep filter in place, of course. Watch for vignetting.

Bay 1 to Series V is common. I don't know if they make a Bay I to Series VI adapter. There is a Series V to Series VI adapter-

https://www.filterfind.net/Series_5_A.html (3/4 down page)
 
Yes, looks like there is room for the filter!

Vignetting: these Kodak parts came with the stock Ektar 101mm lens, so I was hoping this would not be an issue.
And... the Synchro-Rapid shutter is still a bit hesitant, for now.
 
One thing to look out for is that the Series 6 hood might interfere with your viewfinder image, at the bottom of the screen of your Autocord. When I started learning about photography (mid-60's) Series filters were very common because you could have one set of filters for use on different lenses/formats, you just had to have the correct mounting ring in that size series filter. I used Series 7 for 35mm and 4x5 lenses, Series 6 for Rolleiflex and 2x3 Graflex and Series 5 for Rolleicord. Later on (70's) I used Series 8 for large format as my lenses increased in filter diameter. With the proper adapter I could use larger filters on smaller lenses. Of course now-a-days everything is in millimeter size, you might be able to find an adapter from series size to mm size (49,52,55) so you can use your modern filters on your 2x3 camera.
 
 
Just make sure you remember where you put the retaining ring when you start using a hood as a retainer. Easy to lose those things and not be able to find them when you want it.
 
One thing to look out for is that the Series 6 hood might interfere with your viewfinder image, at the bottom of the screen of your Autocord. When I started learning about photography (mid-60's) Series filters were very common because you could have one set of filters for use on different lenses/formats, you just had to have the correct mounting ring in that size series filter. I used Series 7 for 35mm and 4x5 lenses, Series 6 for Rolleiflex and 2x3 Graflex and Series 5 for Rolleicord. Later on (70's) I used Series 8 for large format as my lenses increased in filter diameter. With the proper adapter I could use larger filters on smaller lenses. Of course now-a-days everything is in millimeter size, you might be able to find an adapter from series size to mm size (49,52,55) so you can use your modern filters on your 2x3 camera.

I have found that a 44mm to 49mm step up ring will screw into the Series VI adapter in place of the retaining ring. This
allows you to use the more common 49mm filters with your camera. I use this step up ring on my 2x3 Series B Graflex
SLR and its 127mm ƒ4.5 Ektar lens.
 
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I have found that a 44mm to 49mm step up ring will screw into the Series VI adapter in place of the retaining ring. This
allows you to use the more common 49mm filters with your camera. I use this step up ring on my 2x3 Series B Graflex
SLR and its 127mm ƒ4.5 Ektar lens.

I have been trying to track down a standard thread to series vi thread (44mm?) adapter ring. Any suggestions? I looked for a 52mm-44mm step down, but couldn’t find anything.
 
Try https://filterfind.net
They exist, I think I have 44 to 55mm

Now that all [almost all?] filter manufacturers have stopped making black & white contrast filters and have cut back on most of the rest of the filters, the only place I can consistently find filters, especially the large or small ones is filterfind.net. If you have trouble there, email him directly. He usually answers quickly.
 
If all you need is a Bay 1 hood for the Autocord, I do believe the original Bay 1 square metal hoods are the best. They are not expensive, since there are many companies making them in the past (e.g. Acura, Yashica, Rollei of course). And they are elegant.

In addition, Bay 1 filters are quite cheap and plenty as well. As far as I'm concerned, just a medium yellow filter can cover 80% of use cases.

I use Series V/VI filters when the lens do not have filter thread, and requires a push-on adapter. Almost all my medium format folders need that, as well as most Kodak 35mm cameras.
 
You can use the hood as the retaining ring. So lens> adapter> filter> hood. No need to use an extra retaining between the filter and hood. Unless you want to remove hood and keep filter in place, of course. Watch for vignetting.

Bay 1 to Series V is common. I don't know if they make a Bay I to Series VI adapter. There is a Series V to Series VI adapter-

https://www.filterfind.net/Series_5_A.html (3/4 down page)

Yes, they made a Bayonet 1 series filter adapter-I have 2 I use!
 
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