Kodak Reintroduces Ektachrome.

[AgX]

In Europe alone are at least 4 active manufacturers of mounts in various forms. Thus at least a custom order by a large lab should not be a problem technically.
Economicswise...

 

[cmacd123]

In Europe alone are at least 4 active manufacturers of mounts in various forms. Thus at least a custom order by a large lab should not be a problem technically.
Economicswise...

BUT would they be able to produce mounts that would work with a 30 year old American Market Slide mounter? are the patents even expired?

 

[AgX]

My thought was that among the moulds for mounts likely still is one apt for automatic mounting. The effort to make machine and mount fit would then be a third issue.

Patents typically have a max. legal validity of 20 years. Except for one model, that issue thus should be nonexisting.

 

[trendland]

The Agfa CS system was for parts very well designed. Hovever their storing box to hold the trays is shit, I got the biggest problem to get the trays out of mine again, the trays get immediately stuck once inserted, and the boxes are not warped or so.
Also in years I only once came across CS trays. As long as one can find other slim mounts the CS mount only makes real sense if one got the CS trays too.

Well there are indeed profits from self mounting, nethertheless - it is a boring job. But you decide on type of frames AND more important : on type of slide magazine.

The best frames are coming from GePe. To New Ektachrome in 35mm there are some different avaible. The best of GePe 35mm frames are these here :

If you prefer glassless or AntiNewton glass you can get what you are willing to pay.

(With antinewton Gepe is expensive) but both types have that Gepe typical metal mask and that is simple :GREAT !
Agfa CS has some advantage in concern of GePe 1) cheap 2) the magazines allows to store 200slides:

This here is the 40slide variant (4 of them are in one magazine)

The CS Mount is realy "unstable" :

This is the GePe Version of AgfaCS (it is all identical no difference from other manufacturers)

Here is the magazine wich made trouble to you if I understand it right way :

Notice : The tolerance within CS magazines is very special. In New condition is is working good.
(I would not buy this magazines in used condition by the way : better not)
The mechanical stability is good enough for normal use over years but if you are working on it with
a little violence it is very fast badly bent. Then you have to waste it.
The next issue like I stated "in New condition" it is working good. But after years of storage or after weeks of daily use it may be that dirt particles come over it. The best way would be smoke - that is also the best way to slides best way to get trouble with it.
I remember one empty magazine with 2 testframes stored behind a living room cabinet (from felt down) so after years it was indeed real dirty (oh same was with test frames)...
So if the magazines are washed in warm water it should help. But if the Mount frames are dirty itself after years this might be a problem ....?

with regards

 

[AgX]

The boxes (magazines as you call them) have the issue that the drawers scratch on the bottom of the boxes, though the boxes were clean and without any further sign of wear and their bottoms perfectly plane. To get the drawers out one easily brakes that dovetail lock. Thus one cannot take out the trays if the boxes are stacked, one actually has to hold the boxes vertical to let the drawers fall out. Maybe that is the reason Agfa desinged the trays not to let the slides fall out...
At least that was the experience with my 3 or 4 boxes.

The boxes that take the much, much more common Universal trays have a swing-open door and the two trays are pushed out by a spring. Perfect. Never had any trouble with these.

 

[AgX]

Well there are indeed profits from self mounting, nethertheless - it is a boring job. But you decide on type of frames AND more important : on type of slide magazine.

Except for the very special CS tray one can use any mount in any tray, except for the mount thickness, as some trays only take slim mounts.
The problem, if at all, would rather be with the projector itself.

The CS Mount is realy "unstable" :

You mean the cover does not lock well?

 

[faberryman]

I used both the standard cardboard mounts and thinner plastic mounts in my 140 Carousel trays without issue for years.

 

[trendland]

Except for the very special CS tray one can use any mount in any tray, except for the mount thickness, as some trays only take slim mounts.
The problem, if at all, would rather be with the projector itself.


You mean the cover does not lock well?

No that isn't the case. I remember I tryed a No name brand of CS . Before I ordered a big batch I tested exact that what you mentioned. It is good for more than 80 Times of "open and close " (I was too lazy for extensive tests) also the plastic is nearly unbreakable. But seriously who would use such mounts more than 3times (for mounting and remounting)?
The stability in concern of torsional strenght is obviously enough for the normal use with slide machines but not even more.
The Gepe mounts are stable enough to build up a bridge after Armageddon has come. But you have to pay for.

with regards

PS : The metal mask inside is also a good shield against high energy cosmic radiation. Nasa should hear, I heard they can't find suitable material for upcomming Mars Mission - all what they tested is insufficient because of a weight limit for that Mission.

 

[cmacd123]

I used both the standard cardboard mounts and thinner plastic mounts in my 140 Carousel trays without issue for years.

the "standard" cardboard mounts were redesigned with rounded corners to work well with the 140 Tray. the previous version with square corners would get the corners "Bumped" which made the slide thicker at that point, and that would cause the slide to fail to fall into the projector gate.

 

[MattKing]

The people who actually operated Kodak Canada's semi-automatic mounting machines must have had an amazing capacity for tedium.
Along with a serious dislike for people who liked to rewind partially exposed 35mm rolls and then later reload them, advance the film, and start shooting again!

 

[trendland]

The people who actually operated Kodak Canada's semi-automatic mounting machines must have had an amazing capacity for tedium.
Along with a serious dislike for people who liked to rewind partially exposed 35mm rolls and then later reload them, advance the film, and start shooting again!

That is quite right - but I do not wonder about the imense tedium of that People you mentioned from
Kodak Canada. Because there is obviously a permanent transfer of tedium from many lab personal in Europe. I did not wonder about simple c41 development any longer. There you can get your negatives from cut through the middle of one frame back if your film isn't highliest exposed. The reason might be that it is done from machines. Ok but you also get your prints in that way....that might be nice because you then have 2 prints of one of the same shot. And it is different - nice...it is not the same print twice. To each print you have a nearly half of your shot! At home you may feel like the Person who manipulate the picture of Lee Harvey Oswald with a sharp nife. It is a puzzle with interesting result.
And the last step (to put the prints in the lab folder) isn't done by machines. Maybe it is from hybrids - half human half machine? Be proud Matt to get this support from Europe.

with regards

 

[wlodekmj]

anyone got their hands on any of this yet?

I am in London, England, and on Saturday 27 October, I received 35mm E100 from both dealers in the UK with whom I had placed pre-orders. I had pre-ordered from two dealers as the pre-release chatter had suggested there would be massive oversubscription, so I thought two pre-orders would give me a better chance of getting some from at least one. Since then I have found another UK dealer who has it available to buy online! Maybe Alaris have provided more film relative to demand here than in the US and Canada. Can anyone from other European countries report on delivery? Thanks.

 

[swchris]

I’m not convinced that most Ektachrome users will really be using a slide projector to show slides... if they can even find a working slide projector.

I'm regularily visiting flea markets in our area (at least once a month I guess). Very rarely there is no slide projector offered. Whether they work, I don't know. But there's not so much inside a slide projector that it cannot be fixed without too much trouble, IMO.

And with my girl friend who likes to go to flea markets as well (for her stuff), we often count how many slide projectors we saw. This is since I've bought a rather overpriced Leitz Pradovit on one flea market, and after we drove a few 100 kilometers to pick up a large format projector which I had bought on Ebay.

regards,
chris

 

[trendland]

I'm regularily visiting flea markets in our area (at least once a month I guess). Very rarely there is no slide projector offered. Whether they work, I don't know. But there's not so much inside a slide projector that it cannot be fixed without too much trouble, IMO.

And with my girl friend who likes to go to flea markets as well (for her stuff), we often count how many slide projectors we saw. This is since I've bought a rather overpriced Leitz Pradovit on one flea market, and after we drove a few 100 kilometers to pick up a large format projector which I had bought on Ebay.

regards,
chris

You should better not buy a slide projector on a flea marked. Better is to have a LOOK on EBay.
A friend did it (he bought used equipment for slide projection on flea markets [is it the right vocabulary by the way?]....)
And he made some good deals - nice! But that was 1990!
Today the chances are poor and if you'll find some stuff it is broken of course. But if you trust you may do - but then you should have suport for repair. And don't spent more than USD 20,- because the RISC is high.

with regards

 

[AgX]

I bought all my slide projectors locally and rarely had issues. I never ever saw anyone buying such.

 

[Meyer Trioplan]

Just got the first developed roll of the eBay order I managed from Mel Pearce and I am REALLY impressed with this film! Wonderful rendition of colors to my taste Minolta Maxxum 5 with 35-105 AFn

 

[Sirius Glass]

Just got the first developed roll of the eBay order I managed from Mel Pearce and I am REALLY impressed with this film! Wonderful rendition of colors to my taste Minolta Maxxum 5 with 35-105 AFn View attachment 211352 View attachment 211353

Ah, the blue skies we remember.

 

[fdonadio]

Ah, the blue skies we remember.

I miss those blue skies... anxiously waiting for E100 in 120 format.

 

[warden]

Just got the first developed roll of the eBay order I managed from Mel Pearce and I am REALLY impressed with this film! Wonderful rendition of colors to my taste Minolta Maxxum 5 with 35-105 AFn View attachment 211352 View attachment 211353

Very nice!

 

[cmacd123]

they even brought back the little Dot between the "K" and the "O" which used to designate US made film.

 

[Meyer Trioplan]

they even brought back the little Dot between the "K" and the "O" which used to designate US made film.

Good catch! I didn’t even see that little mark there!

As flustered as I was with the timing of the release and lack of initial supply compared to demand, I think they have released an exceptional product here that reminds me I have historically viewed C41 films as a “second best” kind of product. The depth of colors this film provides is something I don’t feel any color negative film can honestly approach.

 

[Cholentpot]

This stuff looks amazing. Thanks for posting!

 

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Good catch! I didn’t even see that little mark there!

As flustered as I was with the timing of the release and lack of initial supply compared to demand, I think they have released an exceptional product here that reminds me I have historically viewed C41 films as a “second best” kind of product. The depth of colors this film provides is something I don’t feel any color negative film can honestly approach.

it looks amazing!
Certainly looks much like my E100G , if not better.

 

[MattKing]

Does anyone have any examples with subtle gradation, soft light, some flesh tones and lots of midtones?
That is the sort of scene I love to photograph using transparency film.

 

[Roger Cole]

Wow, that's impressive. Except for that last frame, which looks classically Ektachrome in that light, the blue skies and pure to cool whites in the others look almost, dare I say it, reminiscent of the Kodachrome look.

I too am curious how it's going to look with softly lit pastels and flesh tones.