Kodak Reintroduces Ektachrome.

trendland · Feb 1, 2018

David Luttmann said:
Where has Fujimstated they will leave the film market?

David - in concern of analogue photography and all the equipment and stuff you have a need to use - the past teached all of us to watch what happens
next.
If you are waiting of answers from manufacturers to such issues we have a need to know - they will possible give you the statement - you just have to wait - and then you are informed in a way it is definitivly proofed.
But then it is too late for you - isn't it ?
If I would have to decide at Fuji I would first make all contracts clear. I would first
finalise negotiations that were extremly
difficult. Next should be the right time to inform the press.
It is a bit like to deal with shares. You can't win if you are waiting for official anouncements. You have to know it BEFORE.....
If you need Fuji films - and that is the question of interest of so many of us -
you will be better prepared to buy all the stuff you need soon. Because you'll never see nice pricing with analogue Fuji stuff up from now.
(B&H make the exeption of the rule last month). The pricing from Fuji films will definitivly increase more and more.
At last your beloved films are on a list of next discontinuation.
Is it a good decision to beliefe Fuji today
when Fuji swears you will see your Fuji films in the future. ... and they will hold on films?
They can't ceep that promise.

with regards

Craig · Feb 1, 2018

Ste_S said:
If Fuji do indeed pull out of E6, can Ektachrome (if it ever gets released) keep the E6 process going by itself ?

Perhaps not, since Ektachrome is initially only going to be 35mm and Super 8. Fuji supplies E6 materials in all the common formats.

I must admit I was very surprised at Super 8, can there really be that much of a market for movie film? Obviously Kodak thinks so and presumably has done their market research.

wyofilm · Feb 1, 2018

RattyMouse said:
Just like the Ferrania thread.

Ferrania product has shipped. Hopefully, Ektachrome will be out soon. Then we can have another never ending thread about Silberra. Lest we forget the chance for another thread for whatever Adox comes up with.

And ALL of these somewhat tedious threads are better than ones about the latest film stock to be cancelled!

iandvaag · Feb 1, 2018

It's important to note that while multi packs of 35 mm film are discontinued, this is not true (AFAIK) of 120 multi packs. There was no price difference between multi packs of 35 mm compared to five individual 35 mm rolls for the past several years at B&H IIRC, so there's no need to get too upset (yet).

Read Fuji's discontinuation announcement courtesy of google translate.

Ste_S · Feb 2, 2018

Craig said:
Perhaps not, since Ektachrome is initially only going to be 35mm and Super 8. Fuji supplies E6 materials in all the common formats.

I must admit I was very surprised at Super 8, can there really be that much of a market for movie film? Obviously Kodak thinks so and presumably has done their market research.

Kodak sell Vision 3 and Tri-X in Super 8, perhaps they've noticed an uptick in sales ? Enough to launch a new camera and a new film though ?!

I'm baffled by Super 8 to be honest with the cost for film/dev/scan being quite high (and I'm used to paying £1+ a shot from medium format 6x6 film/dev/scan).

RattyMouse · Feb 2, 2018

Ste_S said:
Kodak sell Vision 3 and Tri-X in Super 8, perhaps they've noticed an uptick in sales ? Enough to launch a new camera and a new film though ?!

I'm baffled by Super 8 to be honest with the cost for film/dev/scan being quite high (and I'm used to paying £1+ a shot from medium format 6x6 film/dev/scan).

The cost of the Super 8 camera went up 4 fold since launch. I highly doubt sales will be anywhere near what Kodak needs to make it a success. There's no sign of any camera being ready for sale even at this late date. Vaporware.

railwayman3 · Feb 2, 2018

Ste_S said:
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If Fuji do indeed pull out of E6, can Ektachrome (if it ever gets released) keep the E6 process going by itself ?

I'm sure that Kodak could.....remember how long Kodachrome kept going with pnly a few central labs in the whole World, And for the last two years or so, with just Dwaynes in Kansas. And E6 is nowhere near as complex as K-14.

David Luttmann · Feb 2, 2018

trendland said:
David - in concern of analogue photography and all the equipment and stuff you have a need to use - the past teached all of us to watch what happens
next.
If you are waiting of answers from manufacturers to such issues we have a need to know - they will possible give you the statement - you just have to wait - and then you are informed in a way it is definitivly proofed.
But then it is too late for you - isn't it ?
If I would have to decide at Fuji I would first make all contracts clear. I would first
finalise negotiations that were extremly
difficult. Next should be the right time to inform the press.
It is a bit like to deal with shares. You can't win if you are waiting for official anouncements. You have to know it BEFORE.....
If you need Fuji films - and that is the question of interest of so many of us -
you will be better prepared to buy all the stuff you need soon. Because you'll never see nice pricing with analogue Fuji stuff up from now.
(B&H make the exeption of the rule last month). The pricing from Fuji films will definitivly increase more and more.
At last your beloved films are on a list of next discontinuation.
Is it a good decision to beliefe Fuji today
when Fuji swears you will see your Fuji films in the future. ... and they will hold on films?
They can't ceep that promise.

with regards

Wow...a wordy response. But you neglected to provide your evidence that Fuji is exiting the film market in 2019. That is all I asked. If you cannot provide your source, then don't bother responding.

trendland · Feb 2, 2018

Ste_S said:
If Fuji do indeed pull out of E6, can Ektachrome (if it ever gets released) keep the E6 process going by itself ?

Steve - a simple answer : YES !
But that isn't the right question. You realy can be sure : If any manufacturer will sell E6 films in the future - you will be able to let your films developed with E6 processing.
You may be sure that this is also possible
after the day the last E6 Film on earth is sold out. (after all manufacturers stopped E6).
Because it is still a pretty business then to some remaining labs to develope E6 films of last costumers.
But after a while of max. one year behind global E6 discontinue you should have a hard task to find the very last remaining lab.
The question is to the pricing then :
THEY WILL BE ABSOLUTE HORRIBLE -
believe me, (also with home developement kits ).

with regards

George Mann · Feb 17, 2018

Is it now dead in the water or what?

jtk · Feb 17, 2018

E6 is useless without same day processing, at leas,in civilized cities. Reason enough to forget chrome.

George Mann · Feb 17, 2018

jtk said:
E6 is useless without same day processing

You are going to have to explain this one to me.

AgX · Feb 18, 2018

jtk said:
E6 is useless without same day processing, at leas,in civilized cities. Reason enough to forget chrome.

For instant gratification you got digital meanwhile.

BrianShaw · Feb 18, 2018

jtk said:
E6 is useless without same day processing, at leas,in civilized cities. Reason enough to forget chrome.

I quit using “chrome film” when we lost the 3-hr turnaround!

twelvetone12 · Feb 18, 2018

jtk said:
E6 is useless without same day processing, at leas,in civilized cities. Reason enough to forget chrome.

In my city there was never a same day processing of e6, not even in the late 90s. Guess the world has always been doomed.

jtk · Feb 18, 2018

In San Francisco Kodachrome-lovers arrived at absolute heaven with Kodak's lab...same day turn around with KODACHROME as well as on-demand PUSH PROCESSING of Kodachrome.

And yes, we had exquisite 3 hour turnaround with E6 at Faulkner Color Lab and at least two others in San Francisco. That turnaround was crucial for commercial photographers who had challenging studio assignments...

George Mann · Feb 18, 2018

Can we get back to the topic of this thread?

kb3lms · Feb 18, 2018

The only way I ever saw 1 hour, or 3 hour for that matter, E-6 Processing was in my bathroom.

Is it true that Kodak showed the new Ektachrome film in Super 8 at CES?

George Mann · Feb 18, 2018

Well, I guess that we will just assume that it is vaporware for now.

LeftCoastKid · Feb 18, 2018

kb3lms said:
The only way I ever saw 1 hour, or 3 hour for that matter, E-6 Processing was in my bathroom. [snip]

Call me spoiled! We had quick turnaround for E6 when I lived in Atlanta in the mid and late-80s (E6 Lab and Chestnut Color); I seem to recall 3 hours? Here in Vancouver, The Lab offers same-day service. Not sure if it's 3 hours or "drop off in the morning and pick it up in the afternoon." My habit is usually to drop off one morning and pick it up the next (I no longer shoot professionally, so time is not of the essence).

lantau · Feb 18, 2018

Here on the civilised side of the Atlantic you still can get same day service. I actually needed that kind of service once, late last year, and dropped off the film in a Munich lab in the morning. It was available for pickup from 17:00 on.

One lab, in a different city, which I use by mail will do regular turnaround of 4h and express in 2h according to their price list. Of course you'd need to go there in person for such service. There could be a few more such labs around, but these are the ones which I know. But being a miser when it comes to development costs I accumulate E6 and Scala films to send them in batches to save on postage.

I'm shocked to hear that E6 will have to be discontinued in all other places!

cmacd123 · Feb 18, 2018

back where I worked in the 70s, if you brought your anscochrome or ekatachrome in the store by 4 PM it would come back from the ETCO photo lab Montreal at 4 pm the next day. colour negative was a fast 3 day service.

BrianShaw · Feb 18, 2018

George Mann said:
Can we get back to the topic of this thread?

OK. Have you bought or shot any of the New Ektachrome yet?

BrianShaw · Feb 18, 2018

George Mann said:
Well, I guess that we will just assume that it is vaporware for now.

That’s what I’m doing... until Kodak mails me some samples.

George Mann · Feb 18, 2018

BrianShaw said:
OK. Have you bought or shot any of the New Ektachrome yet?

Not me.

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