And since the inflation is worldwide and effects more that Kodak, what will you do as the other film manufacturers follow with similar price increases.
Sorry - I meant bye bye from me as a customer. Don't get me wrong. I wish them every success. It's just that I won't subordinate my enjoyment of the medium to their commercial strategy, as I am more than happy with available alternatives. Others shooting mainly colour will disagree, and I understand.
And since the inflation is worldwide and effects more that Kodak, what will you do as the other film manufacturers follow with similar price increases.
And since the inflation is worldwide and effects more that Kodak, what will you do as the other film manufacturers follow with similar price increases.
I don't think (but I might be wrong) that these price increases we're seeing are only due to inflation. I'm sure we'll see price increases across the board, but what evidence do you have to suggest they'll be 'similar'?
I don't think (but I might be wrong) that these price increases we're seeing are only due to inflation
There's also greed/thirst for maximizing profit.Prices getting higher across the board is inflation. It's pretty much the definition of the term. Hence the word, 'inflation'. Just like a balloon. It becomes almost a semantic discussion if you want to figure out if price increases constitute inflation, are due to inflation, or cause inflation. Interesting, but very prone to becoming political very quickly as well.
GregY, if you love TriX you owe it to yourself to try Kentmere 400. Very similar spectral response, very close to box speed, a few compromises here and there (perhaps a tad coarser grain than TriX?), but excellent consistency and quality control overall. I've been amazed by it, even in 35mm.
It's all a matter of priorities. Most of us can structure our income accordingly. If it takes eating out one less time a week in order to buy 5 rolls of film, we'll do it.
I used to work at McKee Bakery while going through college. They are the Little Debbie folks. I met and spoke with Mr. O.D. McKee, the founder, one day and he explained to me what his business philosophy was. He said, when times get tough people don't stop eating cookies, they just switch to less expensive ones and those are his. So he had a business model that worked in good times and bad.
That's where the Kentmere's of the world come in.
OK, I prefer Fuji Superia but Color Plus is next up. Now it's back in stock at £8-10 a roll online and in physical stores. Indeed my local camera shop got a shipment in they've been waiting two years for and it sold out within a week.
Same situation here down under with film supply: For more than three years demand is surpassing supply. As soon as a new shipment comes in, it is sold out extremely fast, in a few days, often even in a few hours!
Film revival has been very strong here, with new labs and shops. Demand has been so strong that even new labs are now expanding and hiring new staff.
They'd still be cheaper. At least considerably cheaper. I used to shoot primarily Kodak, but haven't bought any of their film for years. I have some (colour) Kodak films in the freezer and I occasionally shoot some, but won't buy any. I have more Fuji E6 in the freezer, but they too have become quite expensive. At some point I'll likely switch to digital for colour and only shoot BW films. If these also become too expensive, I'll stop using film altogether and sell my film cameras.
It's all a matter of priorities. Most of us can structure our income accordingly. If it takes eating out one less time a week in order to buy 5 rolls of film, we'll do it.
I used to work at McKee Bakery while going through college. They are the Little Debbie folks. I met and spoke with Mr. O.D. McKee, the founder, one day and he explained to me what his business philosophy was. He said, when times get tough people don't stop eating cookies, they just switch to less expensive ones and those are his. So he had a business model that worked in good times and bad.
That's where the Kentmere's of the world come in.
Meanwhile, Velvia 50, a Fuji film, is higher in cost than all the other E6 films.
If everyone making film and distributing film has to pay more for all the things and services that they have to buy - their input and output costs - their prices will have to be increased.
Different manufacturers will be visited with slightly different input and output costs, and those costs will also vary with geography and the markets they trade into, as well as the characteristics of their products (e.g. colour vs. black and white) so changes will vary.
I just bought some Kentmere 100 in 120.... I'm not really keen on larger grain in 35mm so i tend to use TMax400 in that format if i need a fast film.
As well, with the high cost of enlarging paper, inexpensive, low qc film doesn't seem like a great deal to me....
Nice. People will not be able to afford Kodak films anymore. And that's a way to keep Kodak film production in business?
No, but do you think it is right that Kodak raises its film/paper prices when the price of silver hits a high? Do they think we're dumb enough to assume they only buy silver when the market is high? Wouldn't they buy in bulk and load up when the price was at a low point? Raising film prices at silver market peaks smacks of being nothing more than a money grab....Do you really think executives at Ilford, Kodak, and Fuji get together over some sushi to fix the prices?
Kodak's hiring 300 more people to keep up with the demand. So things seem to be going well for them. Just like Tesla dropped prices on their cars because demand dropped, companies are very sensitive to these things. If demand for film drops, I'm sure prices will drop as well.
I get it - nobody wants to see film get so expensive that it's priced out of reach. I've set personal price limits on the materials I use and once prices exceed that upper limit, I will choose something else. (I won't pay more than $10 per roll of 120 film, and many films are at or beyond that price now. I've been using 8x10 sheets of FP4 - its my absolute favorite film - but once it exceeds $200 for a box of 25, I am not buying it anymore) But the complaining and moaning and angry "Kodak can drop dead for all I care" is pointless.
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