T-Max 100 is the reason that you won't see Panatomic-X again, because it does all the things that 99.9% of the users wanted from Panatomic-X, it does them all or better, and it does other things as well.
Realistically, I'd like this Alaris situation to go end. It seems like they might have some bean-counter reasons why products that are in production currently are simply only available in ways that make the more expensive or difficult to get. I see no reason why color film can't be sold in bulk, I see no reason why RA4 paper can't be cut to popular darkroom sizes.
Secondarily, I want them to figure out this Sino Promise disaster. If you are the company that created the line of chemistry called Flexicolor, would you say it's a good thing that labs all over the world have had to abandon your products because they can't get freaking Kodak C41 chemistry???
I was all Kodak for chems at least in C41 and B&W, but due to simple availability I switched to Fuji and honestly, I prefer it. Easier to mix and work with. Fuji helped me work out Bleach regeneration and now I'm saving bundles of cash on the most expensive chem in the C41 line up.
Lastly, and related to the bulk roll thing, I think Kodak could get serious about packaging waste. A national program to reclaim 35mm cassettes and 120 spools, plus plastic 35mm packaging would be a great thing. Plus most photographers do not need a factory spooled roll of 36 exposure Kodak Gold. There are ways to make bulk go more mainstream with artists and enthusiasts. The people who need factory scaled film will buy it.
Regarding bulk loading, you're assuming most people have darkrooms or other ways to do that.
T-Max 100 is the reason that you won't see Panatomic-X again, because it does all the things that 99.9% of the users wanted from Panatomic-X, it does them all or better, and it does other things as well.
I disagree. I love Pan X but hate T-Max. But Pan X didn't scan well.
Actually, if they put the film on solid motion-picture spools and had a few leading layers of paper, you could load a bulk roll in daylight. There's always a solution.
Actually, if they put the film on solid motion-picture spools and had a few leading layers of paper, you could load a bulk roll in daylight. There's always a solution.
2) Add another color slide film option -- I'm glad E100 was brought back a few years ago, but I'd like to see another offering from the company. I imagine it'd be easier to revitalize an older film than to develop one from scratch, though it's conceivably possible that EPA rules have changed sufficiently in the last 5-10 years that any "old" film might need to be tweaked to meet current regulations (this is reportedly what killed off Velvia 100). Personally, I'd love to see Kodak bring back E100VS. With Fuji Velvia 100 being completely gone in the U.S and Velvia 50 no longer available in sheet sizes, E100VS seems like a no-brainer, as it would fill a void for shooters looking for a punchy, saturated color positive film. Opinions obviously vary, but this was one of my favorite films in the early 2000s.
I imagine the cost to reclaim a cassette is just too expensive. How much can a new one cost to fabricate? A few cents? Is there anything stopping processing centers like yours from giving them to local recycling plants? That seems more practical.
Regarding bulk loading, you're assuming most people have darkrooms or other ways to do that. It's bad enough in New Jersey that I have to carry out my food from the supermarkets by hand because plastic bags can no longer be used and I always forget to take the purchased bags from the car to the market when shopping, So now, I've collected loads of these and my car is a mess.
Wherein George confirms that he's among the 0.1% of users that Kodak cannot economically cater to.
When I shot 100 foot rolls of Ektachrome, I had trouble getting my high quality cassettes back. The cost of cassettes made the cost saving not worth the effort.
What kind photographers are going bother bulk loading? I've never done it in fifty years.
It will save you money.
When I shot 100 foot rolls of Ektachrome, I had trouble getting my high quality cassettes back. The cost of cassettes made the cost saving not worth the effort.
Look what happened when Alaris spun off the paper and chemistry, kaboom no more paper and chemistry.
Eh I don't really get it. KA isn't doing this for charity, they're making money. If they absorbed part of KA and re-built other systems there is no reason why they too can't make money on it. That's another thing that should change. The dealer network sucks for consumers, sucks for vendors. It works really well for the small number of shops large enough to want to take on that roll but look at the 120 Gold fiasco. A shop like mine should be able to call up KA or EK, whomever, and say I want to order XYZ products to sell, and they get shipped. Right now we have to go to Roberts, Freestyle, etc. The prices are barely cheaper than what you see listed to consumers...which is usually about what B&H is charging. You have a couple film labs just selling at wholesale costs to consumers because it keeps them shooting film and sending it in to those labs.
I don't really buy that this 'can't be done'. Adox basically owns their distributor but I'm able to get product from them. Ilford is easy to deal with on this. I mean I believe you that it probably won't happen, but I still think it should.
I can't imagine why Alaris would want to vote to turn over distribution to Eastman Kodak and 1500 Alaris employees lose their jobs which currently are locked in due to the bankruptcy provision between the two companies.
Are you saying the sale caused a worldwide pandemic and total disruption of shipping and distribution, along with a cessation of large amounts of manufacturing throughout China and much of the world?
A lot of KA employees ended up working for Sino Promise instead. The 1500 are the ones left afterwards, and they include those who are working in the "Alaris" division - the one that has nothing to do with photography.
I don't think as far as paper and chemistry goes that anything has run in years.
To absorb KA, Eastman Kodak would have to buy KA, and that would be expensive.
When KA took over the business they took over, most of the remaining Eastman Kodak and Eastman Kodak subsidiaries employees went with it - because a large portion of Eastman Kodak and Eastman Kodak subsidiary employees were in the marketing and distribution end of the business - particularly after the Kodak, labs were wound down.
Outside of Harman/Ilford in the UK (and probably Fuji in Japan) here isn't a single major film manufacturer that does their own distribution to retailers. All of them contract with others to directly deal with retailers. The only difference is that some of the manufacturers have exclusive contracts with different distributors around the world, and maintain an in-house department to deal with those distributors, while others - Kodak - have offloaded that part of the business, and their are no exclusive distribution agreements for the wholesale to retailer part.
The current Kodak arrangement mirrors how things were with Kodak before the bankruptcy, except the marketing department isn't in house.
My comment had nothing to do with "economics"!
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