I'm betting there are EK employees reading this shit and laughing their asses off.
I'm betting there are EK employees reading this shit and laughing their asses off.
Are you sure? A Kodak guy a while back posted they may have removed it long before it was discontinued. Also what is stopping Kodak from reformulating the emulsion to not use Cadmium? They did it with other films.Panatomic-X did contain Cadmium. Kodak didn't bother to reformulate Pan-X without Cadmium, instead introducing faster, finer, T-grained films. So, bye bye Pan-X.
I agree. Without information how can they easily change to cheaper film? Without information how could one know that they are gouging or barely getting by. Without information, it is all speculation. Speculation will almost always lead to the wrong conclusions. As a former Kodak employee, I cannot drink anything when I read this and other threads, because whatever I am drinking will go out my nose.
You can't raise prices to hire employees.
Are you sure? A Kodak guy a while back posted they may have removed it long before it was discontinued. Also what is stopping Kodak from reformulating the emulsion to not use Cadmium? They did it with other films.
T-Max 100 is the reason that you won't see Panatomic-X again, because it does all the things that 99.9% of the users wanted from Panatomic-X, it does them all or better, and it does other things as well.
Exactly. There's no reason to remake Pan-X. None whatsoever.
For the reasons I stated. Demand exists at a current price point and you can't expect that to remain the case if the price is raised.
Not necessarily true of everything. When British Airways started flying Concorde it wasn't that much more expensive than a first class ticket and they had trouble filling the plane. Later they doubled the ticket price and demand more than doubled - it was now seen as an exclusive, premium product that was "worth" what was being charged. That exclusivity in turn created more demand.
Value can be perception as much as anything
Not necessarily true of everything. When British Airways started flying Concorde it wasn't that much more expensive than a first class ticket and they had trouble filling the plane. Later they doubled the ticket price and demand more than doubled - it was now seen as an exclusive, premium product that was "worth" what was being charged. That exclusivity in turn created more demand.
Value can be perception as much as anything
Although a Leica couldn't get me from New York to London in under 3 hours!Leica Airlines.
When British Airways started flying Concorde
Of course you can [raise prices to hire employees]. Companies frequently do just this. Especially those with small profit margins.
Oddly enough, I can't find any reference to low-cost fares on the Concorde from when it first started commercial routes in 1976. It started at a high price and incrementally got more expensive as the years passed. See here.
Oddly enough, I can't find any reference to low-cost fares on the Concorde from when it first started commercial routes in 1976. It started at a high price and incrementally got more expensive as the years passed. See here.
Make a color film called Kodachrome, C-41 or E6.
Ditch the color film; digital color is here to stay.
Realistically, I'd like this Alaris situation to go end.
Eastman Kodak has about 1,100 employees - almost all in Rochester.
Kodak Alaris has about 1,500 distributed all around the world, doing the distribution work they do.
Eastman Kodak would have to double its payroll and add a large amount of location costs to do what Kodak Alaris does - there isn't enough money to do that.
The international nature of Kodak Alaris is the biggest reason that "it just won't happen". It is expensive to operate that sort of business, and Eastman Kodak is mostly a non-photographic commercial printing support business that has an interesting film manufacturing division. Eastman Kodak lacks the capital to "take over the world" again.
Realistically, I'd like this Alaris situation to go end. It seems like they might have some bean-counter reasons why products that are in production currently are simply only available in ways that make the more expensive or difficult to get. I see no reason why color film can't be sold in bulk, I see no reason why RA4 paper can't be cut to popular darkroom sizes.
Secondarily, I want them to figure out this Sino Promise disaster. If you are the company that created the line of chemistry called Flexicolor, would you say it's a good thing that labs all over the world have had to abandon your products because they can't get freaking Kodak C41 chemistry???
I was all Kodak for chems at least in C41 and B&W, but due to simple availability I switched to Fuji and honestly, I prefer it. Easier to mix and work with. Fuji helped me work out Bleach regeneration and now I'm saving bundles of cash on the most expensive chem in the C41 line up.
Lastly, and related to the bulk roll thing, I think Kodak could get serious about packaging waste. A national program to reclaim 35mm cassettes and 120 spools, plus plastic 35mm packaging would be a great thing. Plus most photographers do not need a factory spooled roll of 36 exposure Kodak Gold. There are ways to make bulk go more mainstream with artists and enthusiasts. The people who need factory scaled film will buy it.
Are the Kodak Alaris employees working on a volunteer basis? They cost in terms of payroll and facilities. I know as well as you know that the situation is not likely to change... but, hypothetically speaking, if the payroll and facilities costs associated with KAlaris didn't exist (were transferred) then it might be financially possible for EK to take on the distribtuion role. I think there's another rationale taht might need to be considered. "It just won't happpen" is probably good enough, though.
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