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Last night, I used these two kinds of paper with Kodak Gold 200 film, enlarged two sheets, the bright side is Kodak paper, the soft side is lucky paper
 

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Thanks @wang qing song, that's very interesting. I find it a little difficult to make sense out of the examples, however. The photo of the lady, is that printed on both the Lucky and the Kodak-brand paper? Is the matte print on Kodak, or is that Lucky?
The colors on all prints look quite muted to me; a bit like the low-end of Fuji's product range. You generally get more saturated colors and higher contrast with Fuji's more expensive papers, like DPII.

Having a more muted palette is in itself a very useful thing; what makes me hesitate about this is that in Fuji's lineup, the more muted colors come in papers that also are demonstrably inferior in terms of image stability (archival properties). As I understand, Lucky doesn't have a very good reputation in this department.
 
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Thanks @wang qing song, that's very interesting. I find it a little difficult to make sense out of the examples, however. The photo of the lady, is that printed on both the Lucky and the Kodak-brand paper? Is the matte print on Kodak, or is that Lucky?谢谢@王清歌,这很有趣。然而,我发现要从这些例子中理解出来有点困难。那位女士的照片,是同时印在幸运牌和柯达牌纸上的吗?是柯达的哑光印花,还是Lucky的?
The colors on all prints look quite muted to me; a bit like the low-end of Fuji's product range. You generally get more saturated colors and higher contrast with Fuji's more expensive papers, like DPII.所有印花的颜色在我看来都很柔和;有点像富士系列的低端产品。使用富士的DPII等更昂贵的纸张,你通常会得到更饱和的色彩和更高的对比度。

Having a more muted palette is in itself a very useful thing; what makes me hesitate about this is that in Fuji's lineup, the more muted colors come in papers that also are demonstrably inferior in terms of image stability (archival properties). As I understand, Lucky doesn't have a very good reputation in this department.拥有一个更柔和的调色板本身就是一件非常有用的事情;让我犹豫的是,在富士的阵容中,更柔和的颜色出现在纸张上,在图像稳定性(档案属性)方面也明显较差。据我所知,幸运仔在这个部门名声不太好。
Last night, I enlarged a few more photos, respectively Lucke and Kodak, and an unknown expired photo paper, the parameters are the same, you can see that Lucke is more cyan than Kodak, and because it is suede photo paper, its brightness is higher than Kodak, as for the expired photo paper, it is yellow昨晚我又放大了几张照片,分别是Lucke和Kodak,还有一张未知过期的相纸,参数都是一样的,可以看到Lucke比Kodak偏青色,而且因为是麂皮相纸,所以亮度比Kodak高,至于过期的相纸,是黄色的
 

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you can see that Lucke is more cyan than Kodak

But they are so close in color rendition that it's clear that these papers are part of the same product family. Thanks for showing this; it is consistent with reports we saw earlier of this new 'Kodak' paper being essentially a Lucky paper sold under Kodak brand. With Kodak exiting the paper business and SinoPromise's bankruptcy, it was apparently possible for Lucky to obtain/reclaim some product names.

The yellowed paper is indeed very expired. It looks low-saturation; if I were to hazard a guess, it's old Lucky-manufactured paper. I'd expect the red on Fuji paper that's expired this badly to print a bit more brightly.
 
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