KODAK - BRING BACK Tmax 3200 !!! Asap pls.

trendland · Feb 22, 2018

Would you agree with? Is there a need of this film ? Is it better than Ilford Delta 3200 ?

with regards

Nihil Abstat · Feb 22, 2018

It would be better if they released an even better ultra-fast film. That's what I am expecting.

trendland · Feb 22, 2018

Nihil Abstat said:
It would be better if they released an even better ultra-fast film. That's what I am expecting.

If it is ultafast we may speek about more than ISO 3200 ? The next point to marketing " Hawk Eyes" ist then ISO 6400 - hope we speak about real ISO 6400 then ?

with regards

trendland · Feb 22, 2018

Sorry tipping failure .... u l t r a f a s t....

with regards

PS . Perhaps I should learn this term.....

Nihil Abstat · Feb 22, 2018

trendland said:
If it is ultafast we may speek about more than ISO 3200 ? The next point to marketing " Hawk Eyes" ist then ISO 6400 - hope we speak about real ISO 6400 then ?

with regards

No, I doubt that. Maybe 1600 true ISO.

trendland · Feb 22, 2018

... understand....

with greetings

Nihil Abstat · Feb 22, 2018

I'm expecting a 1600 ISO film with better characteristics than the P3200. Finer-grained, etc.

RattyMouse · Feb 22, 2018

trendland said:
Would you agree with? Is there a need of this film ? Is it better than Ilford Delta 3200 ?

with regards

Delta 3200 is just fine. No need for another high speed B & W film. Diluting this market simply makes it weaker, not stronger.

Nihil Abstat · Feb 22, 2018

RattyMouse said:
Delta 3200 is just fine. No need for another high speed B & W film. Diluting this market simply makes it weaker, not stronger.

I used the Ilford once. It was not very good.

chris77 · Feb 22, 2018

delta 3200 at 1600 is great imo..

RattyMouse · Feb 22, 2018

Nihil Abstat said:
I used the Ilford once. It was not very good.

My standards are different. I use Delta 3200 without hesitation. Developed in DD-X it is a wonderful film.

1kgcoffee · Feb 22, 2018

I actually prefer the look in medium format of Delta 3200 to many films. Have not tried 35mm but it may be a bit grainy for some.

In my opinion there's no need when. Tri-x can be pushed so well

Poisson Du Jour · Feb 22, 2018

No need for TMax P3200 at all. How about answering this question first: while it was available, why didn't people buy it?
So, use Ilford's Delta P3200 -- an excellent product, and importantly, learn to moderate contrast.
There is nothing at all wrong with this dP3200 But there is a lot wrong with photographers misunderstanding its use.

BrianShaw · Feb 22, 2018

That would be a completely useless film for me.

mdarnton · Feb 22, 2018

It's too bad that silver hasn't shown the same kind of progress that digital has---better quality, more tonal range, speed. I guess that all happened in the first 20 years of film, just as it is in digital. I'd love to see a real revolution in available films!

jim10219 · Feb 22, 2018

I’d be pleased if they released it in sheets. I can’t find any sheet film faster than 400 and with the tiny apertures used in LF, it sure would be nice to have something you could use on a windy day.

Theo Sulphate · Feb 22, 2018

mdarnton said:
It's too bad that silver hasn't shown the same kind of progress that digital has---better quality, more tonal range, speed. I guess that all happened in the first 20 years of film, just as it is in digital. I'd love to see a real revolution in available films!

Film improved steadily over the decades, all the way to its peak consumption in the late 1980's, early 1990's and beyond.

Mcsushiburger · Feb 23, 2018

https://twitter.com/kodakprofilmbiz?lang=en they just did. Funny timing. Only 135 for now, but they don't exclude bringing back 120 if the demand is deemed sufficient.

trendland · Feb 23, 2018

Ok - that was a fast response : Today Kodak Alaris is reintroducing Tmax3200.

:

with compliments

PS : Kodak recomanded E.I. is up to
ISO 6400 !

trendland · Feb 23, 2018

Nihil Abstat said:
I'm expecting a 1600 ISO film with better characteristics than the P3200. Finer-grained, etc.

So let us test the film asap !

with special greetings to you

PS : Asap (as soon as possible) means :
Next Week

E. von Hoegh · Feb 23, 2018

Theo Sulphate said:
Film improved steadily over the decades, all the way to its peak consumption in the late 1980's, early 1990's and beyond.

It certainly did.
If someone had described Portra 400 to me in 1990, I'd have asked them what were they smoking and where could I get some.
The last generation of Ektachrome films had some stunningly good options.

trendland · Feb 23, 2018

Mcsushiburger said:
https://twitter.com/kodakprofilmbiz?lang=en they just did. Funny timing. Only 135 for now, but they don't exclude bringing back 120 if the demand is deemed sufficient.

I would not be soo sure if the demand to
Tmax is "deemed sufficient" in other words : Now it is the question how to compare with Delta 3200...

with regards

PS : I realy like Delta films but "the better is allways the enemy of the good"

mdarnton · Feb 23, 2018

OK, I'm in for at least one roll. Many of the places I shoot don't even move my meter needle. I was hoping for Ektachrome, but this will do for the moment.

trendland · Feb 23, 2018

mdarnton said:
OK, I'm in for at least one roll. Many of the places I shoot don't even move my meter needle. I was hoping for Ektachrome, but this will do for the moment.

I would agree - you just said it :
"This will do for the moment "

with regards

PS : Let's ask for New Ektachrome within next week - OK ?

Minoltafan2904 · Feb 23, 2018

RattyMouse said:
Delta 3200 is just fine. No need for another high speed B & W film. Diluting this market simply makes it weaker, not stronger.

What you're saying is ridiculous, how the hell is a wider choice of films bad, seriously?? and it's not going to make the market weaker, if anything perhaps people who have tried D3200 and didn't like it, will like P3200, that means more film being sold.
Once again, some people on this forum try to turn good news into bad news.

KODAK - BRING BACK Tmax 3200 !!! Asap pls.

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