Yes, the thinness of the layers is crucial, as PE has mentioned, I also believe this was the reason why K25 was dropped, as they no longer had the coater capable of making the extremely thin layers that K25 needed.That's what I thought, but PE has stated K14 films are even harder to make.
Kodachrome was coated on the same coating machine as other films.
Kodachrome 25 was the only film not coated there as it was cancelled at about the time the new machine came on-line.
PE
If Kodachrome comes back I will be buying some of that for sure. I always liked it when the light was good. It had a nice "down to earth" palette that I liked. Meanwhile I am glad that Ektachrome is coming on the shelves.
Yes sorry, thats more or less what I was thinking.Ummm, K25 was not coated in B38. The product was cancelled at about the same time the machine came on-line. But, the trials done with the film did not work due to the difficulty with the film and thus the formula would have to have been revised. Sales were not there to justify that work. It is not uncommon for a problem to arise when changing coating machines. You just have to have the money through sales to justify the R&D needed to make those changes.
PE
If Kodachrome comes back I will buy some to contribute to reduce the risk of another iteration of Kodachrome dismissal and related threads on APUG
If Kodachrome comes back I will buy some to contribute to reduce the risk of another iteration of Kodachrome dismissal and related threads on APUG
Quite the revelation. I had always thought that the combination of the downturn of slides, the downturn of slow films (in part, related to the downturn of prime lenses), and the loss of shelf space in stores (to make room for APS films) did it in.Ummm, K25 was not coated in B38. The product was cancelled at about the same time the machine came on-line. But, the trials done with the film did not work due to the difficulty with the film and thus the formula would have to have been revised. Sales were not there to justify that work. It is not uncommon for a problem to arise when changing coating machines. You just have to have the money through sales to justify the R&D needed to make those changes.
PE
Brilliant post.
However, Kodachrome revival threads are an acquired taste. I used to hate them, until I found their usefulness for comic relief.
Back in 2005, Photo Engineer, then posting using a strange alias in photo.net ("R... M..."), explained perfectly the reason for Kodachrome being axed --even before it was actually discontinued--, and I think these posts should be required reading:
http://photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00ArYc?start=20
They explain perfectly why Kodachrome was gone and why it will probably never come back. And it includes the Kodachrome clones by Fuji and Sakura/Konica/Ilford that were discontinued looooooooong before the Kodak product. Not to mention 3M/Dynachrome of course (another Kodachrome clone that died)
At the end Ron explains perfectly why Kodachrome wouldn't resurrect even if Kodak ran full-page ads on it again.
So yes, i have fun in these threads, but in reality the probability of having such a film back is almost nil. Ektachrome coming back is as good as it gets. It is clear that from mid 1990s onwards, Kodak focused on pushing forward C41 films while Fuji, E6 films. So the coming back of Ektachrome is already a lucky anomaly for us.
Quite the revelation. I had always thought that the combination of the downturn of slides, the downturn of slow films (in part, related to the downturn of prime lenses), and the loss of shelf space in stores (to make room for APS films) did it in.
Was KR64 ever coated on B38?
Do I infer that EK built a new coating factory circa 2001 (by which time demand for photographic film was clearly headed downward)?
I'm dying of curiosity to read that thread, but when I clicked on the link, I got a thread about slow monochrome films. :-(
Was KR64 ever coated on B38?
So the coming back of Ektachrome is already a lucky anomaly for us.
So yes, i have fun in these threads, but in reality the probability of having such a film back is almost nil...
Start from page 4, from "Reuben C" (=troll) last post.
Nah.At some point in the future scientists will study threads such as these to try and understand how such insanity manages to flourish amongst a group of people.
Nah.
Those scientists won't study this thread to understand how such insanity manages to flourish amongst a group of people. They will be too busy studying the US electoral process for that purpose.
At some point in the future scientists will study threads such as these to try and understand how such insanity manages to flourish amongst a group of people.
And with Trump in office, good luck with that sort of thing any more.Only if they can get research grant money for the study.
Only if they can get research grant money for the study.
What is really odd is that after 17 pages and links to previous discussions as well, is the inescapable but seemingly ignored fact that *IF* a product called Kodachrome was to be coated in the future, it wouldn't be the same as previous Kodachrome products but something new with the Kodachrome name attached.
And with Trump in office, good luck with that sort of thing any more.
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