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I stand to be corrected, but I'm not sure you can develop Kodachrome to a b&w positive slide.
Yes I expect so, especially considering this is supposed to be a slide film.You can. I've actually done it a few times before I moved to trying to conquer it in color.
It looks nicer as a B&W slide than as a negative too.
How do you get rid of the yellow layer?
So are Daguerrotypes, and Collodion wetplate and yet they offer a unique look thats interesting and artistic as well as learning opportunities for how film works. Kodachrome is the same.
The problem with these analogies is that both systems can be easily duplicated with readily available chemicals and technology. This is mot true for Kodachrome which is several orders of magnitude more complicated.
OK, well I have not been around here long enough to even come across your posts as of yet, but anyway I was not referring to a lab environment at a certified Kodachrome lab, rather if you had tempted the process yourself with or without the correct Kodachrome couplers.
This is certainly true, and to be honest puts me in total awe.EDIT: I should add, that even so, my skills in all of these processes and experimentation is light years beyond what is going on here!
Sheesh!This is certainly true, and to be honest puts me in total awe.
However, you didn't answer Nzoomed's question:
Have you, personally, developed Kodachrome manually with your own hands?
I actually don't see the relevance of this question, but it was asked and I guess it ought to be answered.
The barn?What more do you wish of me?
The barn?
It seems to me that an awful lot of the people here on APUG have trouble appreciating that much of what is/was normal for commercial photographic endeavours requires/required teams of people, and banks of money.
Along with hard won expertise.
Piratelogy is to be commended for his efforts, but they seem to be a lot more like the work of the Wright brothers than the work of PE.
If you want to get a better sense about what sorts of contributions PE has made, this link includes links to the Kodachrome patent itself (the linked to pdfs): (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
And if you note the fact that that thread is itself 8 years old, you might get a better sense why PE might be just a bit tired of Kodachrome threads.
... I think the analogy still fits...
EDIT: I should add, that even so, my skills in all of these processes and experimentation is light years beyond what is going on here!
No, I did not personally process Kodachrome.
I have made that clear over and over
... What more do you wish of me?
Have you, personally, developed Kodachrome manually with your own hands?
Sheesh!
Why would he have done so? ... PE helped create the developer for the K-14 process (he is named as co-inventor on one of the main K-14 patents!) and he had all the resources of the Eastman Kodak research laboratories available to him.
Would you really expect him to have developed Kodachrome in his kitchen?
LAG, the disorganization is due to my posting the same things over and over (sometimes) to save the individuals concerned the effort of looking up old posts. Another reason is that my having so many posts precludes my having kept track of them. It is just not possible! Too much.
As for haughty? Wow. I've said over and over that there are better men and women from KRL than I to do these posts. And as for my skills, I'll match anyone here 1:1 for darkroom skills in making, coating and processing. That is not haughty, just fact! Due to years of laborious work.
PE
LAG, I will have to let others judge our respective posts then.
I'm sorry, but I cannot accept what you are saying.
FWIW, I took Nzoomed's question to mean that he doubted whether PE had the necessary experience to contribute to what pireatology was endeavouring to do, because only someone who manually processed Kodachrome would.
Subsequent communications and posts indicate to me that wasn't really what Nzoomed meant.
But I remain steadfast in my belief that the real, hands on technical and commercial experience and knowledge that PE and others have with respect to these matters is considerably more meaningful for those who want high quality results from film than the experiments being performed by pireatology or the earlier work of Stephen Frizza.
Those experiments have value in themselves, and I commend them. But I wouldn't use them, except as a matter of curiousity, or for fun.
Done! So do I (Do not expect such overwhelming sincerity from others) Well, I've tried to be benevolent, but I've already told you what I think openly.
LAG, I will have to let others judge our respective posts then.
This is childish. Please stop.Done! So do I (Do not expect such overwhelming sincerity from others) Well, I've tried to be benevolent, but I've already told you what I think openly.
Have you ever, ever thought that what you have posted...
The things i have to read in this forum!!
Perhaps you should read what you write before pushing the "Post Reply" button.
This is childish. Please stop.
Have you ever, ever thought that what you have posted is highly arrogant towards a person with enormous patience and proven will to help others such as Photo Engineer?
The things i have to read in this forum!!
Perhaps you should read what you write before pushing the "Post Reply" button.
PE, Pirateology:
You are doing fantastic things on this forum. You don't deserve to have to deal with that attitude.
Keep doing what you are doing.
Pirateology, i can't wait to see your test shots once you achieve good yellow levels!!
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