Some last, some don't. My in laws have a stash of slides, 30-50 years old. Some Ektachromes are ok, most are faded beyond recognition. Kodachromes look like new.Although rockland's couplers might be completely crap compared to Kodak's, I assume they offer fairly long-lasting dyes. People have been using this product on black and white prints, so I assume it's not that bad and will last a decade or two at least. The old films and whatnot did not have very good couplers, yet they still last quite some time, albeit with some fading.
+1. I really can't see why some people seem to want to make harsh posts....unless it's indigestion through too much booze and food over Christmas, or a need to get out for some fresh air ?.
The OP has drawn our attention to a link, which may be of interest. If it's not, or if you don't believe it, just click your mouse and move on to something which does interest you ?
Yes - I noticed my mistaken idea (to work out experimental with simple bw emulsions ) just at the beginning. ..Yeah, I had my doubts as to whether the images on the site were actually kodachrome or not, but I will trust them for now. You are quite right, trendland, that this will not work on black and white film. However, I believe that this will work on black and white paper with a two color red and green process, similar to the original two color kodachrome. As multigrade paper has two layers of differently sensitized film one could possibly expose one layer, develop it, then expose the second layer and develop it to give a color image.
Well - locutus I can't speak for the females you know - of cause I can't..
But to me... (from my experience) -
"Yes SERIOUSLY" !!! ....
with regards
PS :..glad if it is still alowed to say-
because in some years from now one will
come for years into prisn caused from such statement
....
Knowing how hard it was for Steven Frizza to do this, I have serious doubts about the quality and longevity of the results here.
PE
AFAIK Steve's main ambition was to use the correct Kodachrome couplers, which were very difficult to obtain and quite expensive. Steve had very high standards, and apparently reached those, albeit with an amount of effort he was unwilling to go through ever again.Knowing how hard it was for Steven Frizza to do this, I have serious doubts about the quality and longevity of the results here.
Well - if you are asking - I should tell ?
Or better not - railwayman3 ????
Hmmm - I don't want that you explode soon- but OK : "not a single one is able to load a simple 135 cassette" ???
with regards
PS : Strange to imagine to be told how
K14 is easily made at home now.
trendland, when you posted that original statement, I sort of hoped that we just misunderstood you, that you didn't mean it that way, that you would sort of clear it up, that we would all laugh about it soon, only to end with the slow and painful realization that you were dead serious.Well - if you are asking - I should tell ?
Or better not - railwayman3 ????
Hmmm - I don't want that you explode soon- but OK : "not a single one is able to load a simple 135 cassette" ???
Knowing how hard it was for Steven Frizza to do this, I have serious doubts about the quality and longevity of the results here.
PE
@AgX: color film products changed a lot, even when the process itself didn't. Therefore color developer itself may be important, but choice of coupler definitely affects longevity of final product, too.
trendland, when you posted that original statement, I sort of hoped that we just misunderstood you, that you didn't mean it that way, that you would sort of clear it up, that we would all laugh about it soon, only to end with the slow and painful realization that you were dead serious.
Wow!
ALL the women you have ever dealt with are complete morons, quite contrary to what most of us (including myself) here have experienced! You may want to consider, though, that you are that one common denominator to all these moronic women around you. Not sure, whether I would proudly announce this as you did ...
With a given industrial chromogenic processing standard, only thing one can change is the coupler. But that does not neccessarily mean that such is the ultimate way.
But in any case we should not forget that the films processed were long outdated. It was obviously not intended to follow best practice but to get results.
Have you noticed the workflow showed on the diagram given on the tumblr page
PE ? It seams to be little different with some steps in comparison to the method you have described/recomanded.
Well - as we should know allways more than one way comes to rome.
But from your expertise is it possible that way would work?
To me - let me short state "There is no respocability to wrong couplers - from anybody" - because labs are closed and Kodak themself stated : They can't say" if it is just allowed from modern regulations to use original agends/couplers if they were able to find them anywhere"
That looks like - it is not very clear (Kodak themselfes have pure speculations) if all compounds needed are still in production by chemical industry.So it looks much much like reformulation if Kodak ever decided to come back to Kodachrome.
But here it is not the issue from stability caused of wrong chemistry (no other way) - we all know it is roulette from characteristics - but let me short ask :
Is the process correct?
(No final wash/no stabilizer mentioned)
bleach is no need in simular K14 method as I remember correct due to colors within the bath (not coming from film).
with regards
PS : A work from bite your teeth - so Kodak decided to let it open (IF OR IF NOT RELAUNCH KODACHROME)
With a given industrial chromogenic processing standard, only thing one can change is the coupler. But that does not neccessarily mean that such is the ultimate way.
But in any case we should not forget that the films processed were long outdated. It was obviously not intended to follow best practice but to get results.
I cannot load that page for some reason, so I spoke from experience. Apologies
PE
You can change coupler and developing agent. Both have a profound influence on stability and development.
+1What, seriously!?
+1
As seems to be the case far too often lately, I don't know whether it's best to laugh or cry, or wonder if I'm missing a joke. Regardless, my thanks to all the good guys who push back. Appreciated. Respected.
d (a female)
That's indeed true....
RAILWAYMAN3 - isn't it ?
......I spoke about N O R M A L female creatures. But to fulfill such task
you realy need genius female creatures.
This lady the OP refered has obviously such good genes....
The issue that we (male) here on Apug are mostly with absolute genius talents is well known worldwide.
But railwayman3 - would you agree with
that female genius creatures -obviously they are still living on this earth (I followed with interest your versions) -
are a little underrepresented in darkrooms? OR what else?
with regards
PS : I stated it - in some years one come into prisn for that
#1 - Genius doesn't care if you have two X chromosomes or an X and a Y.
#2 - It doesn't take genius from either sex to do proper chemistry. Women are obviously just as capable as men when it doesn't require lifting something 100 pounds.
#3 - 'Til this thread I've given you credit for not being primarily an English speaker.
#4 - Your posts will now be reported to the mods. All you're doing is digging yourself deeper.
Another woman here, btw. And a chemist. (who doesn't give a cr@p about Kodachrome, but was interested enough to see what someone else was doing with chemistry)
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