kodachrome 120 expression of intrest?

[gunzel]

I just found some Kodachrome 120 in the bottom of a fridge and would be interested in trying it out.

 

[wogster]

Ditto. I have a few unexposed PKR120 rolls in the freezer. They were bought very cheaply. I know someone who has offered to practically give away to me a few more PKR rolls they gave up using years ago.

I feel the cost of developing a test roll, even at the $50 suggested unit price, is worth it once proof of concept is presented to this forum, replete with detailed notes on tiberiustibz's path to getting there as well as processed frames- good, bad and ugly. It shouldn't be just a learning experience for him, but for anyone else interested. It means we're in this together.

$50 to intentionally process a roll of long expired film that isn't yet exposed, are you people insane? There are current 120 transparency films around, that can be processed for a reasonable cost, where you could purchase and process 3 rolls for less then $50. I don't know, I think trying to resurrect KR120 is just flogging a long dead and decomposed horse.

There are not that many rolls left around and when those are gone, it all becomes a moot point anyway.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Then they become valuable antiques and collectors items.

The Union Pacific Station in Whitefish MT has an antique photo materials display there. I would post some pictures but they are digital. Tsk. Shame on me, but that is what I had at the time. I was only doing snapshots, not serious work.

PE

 

[accozzaglia]

Well, some people blow $50 on lottery tickets each and every week. Sounds like a lot, but that's about $7 a day. It's their money.

Some people blow $50 on an overpriced dinner at an off-Michelin guide has-been just because at one time it was a swanky place. It's their money.

Some people blow $500 on a night of blow. But again, it's their money.

Some people gave $500,000 to a hedge fund that was a Ponzi scheme. I'm sounding like a broken record.

Some people even drop $80 on a single roll of EIR without blinking. And hrm, yeah.

I want the experience -- a once and probably only experience -- of shooting and seeing my own work in 120 Kodachrome splendour. It's as close to the vintage 4x5 sheets as I could ever hope. It'll be my money.

[Addition]:

Wogster, I shoot several different E-6 and b/w 120 + 220 rolls. I'll continue to shoot those as long as I can. One more thing: some people spend $5,000 on a DSLR setup only to replace it in a few years with the next great upgrade. For the life of me, I cannot fathom why when the price of one DSLR in that range would take hundreds of rolls of shooting and processing most emulsions to spend that much on film and processing.

 

[wogster]

Well, some people blow $50 on lottery tickets each and every week. Sounds like a lot, but that's about $7 a day. It's their money.

Some people blow $50 on an overpriced dinner at an off-Michelin guide has-been just because at one time it was a swanky place. It's their money.

Some people blow $500 on a night of blow. But again, it's their money.

Some people gave $500,000 to a hedge fund that was a Ponzi scheme. I'm sounding like a broken record.

Some people even drop $80 on a single roll of EIR without blinking. And hrm, yeah.

I want the experience -- a once and probably only experience -- of shooting and seeing my own work in 120 Kodachrome splendour. It's as close to the vintage 4x5 sheets as I could ever hope. It'll be my money.

[Addition]:

Wogster, I shoot several different E-6 and b/w 120 + 220 rolls. I'll continue to shoot those as long as I can. One more thing: some people spend $5,000 on a DSLR setup only to replace it in a few years with the next great upgrade. For the life of me, I cannot fathom why when the price of one DSLR in that range would take hundreds of rolls of shooting and processing most emulsions to spend that much on film and processing.

Stupid people do stupid things with their money, that is true, what always amazes me is that the stupid people seem to be the ones who have the money in the first place. :confused:

I don't know, I think the whole Kodachrome 120 thing is taking on a religious tone, where people worship a film that hasn't been produced in decades, to try and get a photographic look that belongs in the middle half of the previous century. It's grainy, it's slow, the colours are over done, and all skin tones are treated the same, horribly (IMNSHO).
I have never shot even a single roll of Kodachrome, I'd seen K25 slides, and I was not impressed when I started shooting slides, nothing I have seen since has changed my mind, and I quit shooting slides in 1982.

 

[removed-user-1]

Kodachrome Sheet Film

This item was among the bargains at the final going-out-of-business sale at Camera World of North Carolina, at the end of 2008. I paid $5 for a very old box of Kodachrome 4x5 sheet film... I don't propose to shoot this film (the box includes a notice to develop before Feb. 1949), but I thought you might all enjoy seeing the box! This goes into my collection, right next to a brown glass bottle with a yellow Kodak cap.

 

[accozzaglia]

Go with what works for you. If Kodachrome ain't it, then skip it for what does. It's of no benefit to judge others' aesthetic selections for emulsions. What works for person A might not for person B and D and L, but that's OK.

And no, I am not a woman of great means. The money I would have to spend on it would be a huge gamble, but life's short. And then I die.

 

[nickandre]

I think the attitude is: Why waste several hundred rolls of perfectly good film?

Now processing the 4x5 stuff, that would be crazy.

 

[davela]

Steve,

Have you actually processed Kodachrome before? Do you process it now?

It's not as easy as you think, because, unlike E-6, there is NO chemical reversal. In E-6, you can substitute light reversal (800 footcandle-seconds of energy) for the reversal bath; but in K-14 you have red re-exposure and blue re-exposure steps.

Both of these re-exposure steps are NOT terminal (expose to completion), because one is through the emulsion and the other is through the base; and if you hit either one too hard you'll expose layers that are not developed yet.

I know, I looked at this, since I too have a brick of 20 120 rolls.

I looked over the processing instructions once for Kodachrome and while it looked involved, I'm sure any decent wet chemist could get his arms around this. In fact I'm not sure what all the hullabaloo about Kodachrome processing is really about - mystique and scientific ignorance perhaps. Making something like a very simple integrated circuit is a helluva a lot harder (I've done that too).

 

[Robert Budding]

Perhaps someone will create an E-6 film that has a color palette similar to Kodachrome. Far more practical than developing old 120 Kodachrome.

 

[Ralph Javins]

Good morning, Stephen Frizza;

At the very least, you have prompted a volume of discussion.

I am also someone who does still use 2.25 Square or 6 cm by 6 cm, and Kodachrome in a 120 film size is of interest to me also.

As some evidence of my sincerity in my expression of interest, I point out that yesterday I did buy some more KR-64 and PKR-64 that will go to Dewaynes for processing.

 

[kevs]

Perhaps someone will create an E-6 film that has a color palette similar to Kodachrome. Far more practical than developing old 120 Kodachrome.

Perhaps they will; but where's the challenge in that?

 

[nickandre]

Creating an E6 film with a similar color palette to kodachrome (supposedly impossible) will not help use that brick of kodachrome 120 in my freezer.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Creating an E6 film with a similar color palette to kodachrome (supposedly impossible) will not help use that brick of kodachrome 120 in my freezer.

Not 100% impossible, but very very difficult!

PE

 

[accozzaglia]

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[StoneNYC]

I'd like to point out that I was at Dwayne's Photo (the last lab in the world to process Kodachrome) on the last day they accepted film, and Dwayne himself told me that they tried to GIVE the machine away to multiple museums etc and everyone was interested until they found out how big the machine was, it's probably 25-30 FEET long, maybe 4 feet wide and at it's highest point 6 feet tall. It required 2 rooms, the dark room and then through a wall to a low light room.

Do you have this much space in your lab?

Also Dwayne (or his son) told me since they couldn't find a taker, they would be disassembling it and tossing it in the dumpster...

SOOO... This might prove to be the next Impossible Kodachrome Project... sad, I miss it so much..


~Stone

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[StoneNYC]

Oh but I'll take any 120 (or 70mm if they made any, I don't know if they did) as I would like to shoot it as B&W and perhaps do some color experiments to try and get some of it to colorize, perhaps one of the dyes is easier to get to stick (probably blue since I THINK this one doesn't need darkness to attach).

Could be fun, but I'd need some frozen stuff, any givers??


~Stone

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[benjiboy]

Kodak ceased production of 120 Kodachrome in 1996 any existing films are at least sixteen years old.

 

[StoneNYC]

Kodak ceased production of 120 Kodachrome in 1996 any existing films are at least sixteen years old.

That's ok, I shoot 40 year old film, it's fun


~Stone

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[jm94]

Offering the service for 35mm kodachrome would be great! I express great interest if you begun to offer this as a service, I would shoot some kodachrome just to have the experience, I felt I had missed out! D:

 

[benjiboy]

Who would want to build a business opertunity on processing two films that are no longer manufactured ?, I wouldn't put my money into it.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

Five year old thread, Kodachrome dead, and people are getting excited....

 

[jm94]

Wtf I thought this was a new thread... Doh!

 

[StoneNYC]

Wtf I thought this was a new thread... Doh!

Honestly, I did too, I've never even looked at the thread post timeframes haha whoops!


~Stone

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[Stephanie Brim]

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