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And they'll tire of it in no time at all. It's just a game.
I can't even stand digital slide shows for that matter...I would rather be in charge of how long I look at something, whether to linger or skip or go back. And putting zooms or moves on a still image (ala Ken Burns) irks me too. I'll decide if something merits a closer look or if I want to take in the entire image without annoying actions added. Oh, yeah, and keep music out of the whole deal. Make a movie/video if you want all that shit.
What manufacturers were those? The ones making the tapes, I mean. I only know of a couple manufacturers right now, which would be Recording The Masters, National Audio, and I believe ATR Magnetics. Were those the three?
It's more than wishful thinking, backed up by the data Henning has given us here in these very pages year on year. Backed up by what Ilford and Kodak repeatedly say...if you listen. Backed up by what the owners and staff in camera shops say.
We aren't yet at the happy stage of the vinyl record revival, where a major chain (HMV) just re-opened a store in my town....2x larger than the one they closed a few years ago and selling *thousands* of titles on vinyl *and* styled in the fashion of a 1970s record shop.....additionally I can pick up a copy of any one of about 50 titles with my bread at the supermarket. Film isn't there yet. But it might be on the way. I agree with being realistic, but talking the undeniable sustained upswing in film sales down and stating that it is "wishful thinking" doesn't help either. As my recent conversation with Andy Church at Kodak-Alaris pointed out.....the best thing to do is for us all to buy more film (from his perspective, preferably Kodak) and to spread the word.
That niche market is growing, substantially, year on year and his for the last 5-6 years. I work with teenage kids and have seen a lot of changes in how they view technology. And what I can say is that currently while I seem really old to them., I'm rather cool because I have a turntable in my office. 15 years ago teenage kids did not know what a record was. Now it's becoming common on the last day of term for the kids to bring instax cameras to school....started just before the pandemic and is picking up again this year. Before it was only phones, except when I started out in the late 90s when kids then brought in film cameras. None has actually shot traditional negative film on site in recent years, but I feel it's coming. Again, I am well known as the staff member who spends his weekends shooting film on ludicrously old cameras. And while I fully embrace something of a "mad scientist" persona (I work in the science dept) I am increasingly viewed as cool rather than odd or weird. Today's late teen college age kids are increasingly shooting film and demanding film is taught in college. Can't be long before their younger siblings, cousins and acquaintances notice this. Which is exactly what happened with vinyl records, where demand grew so great after 15 years of annual doubling of sales that new record presses went back into production for the first time in 30 years at huge expense, and it wasn't even considered a financial gamble to do so.
Whilst on eBay, I put in "Nikon camera" in the "cameras and photography" category and came up w/ over 120,000 hits. When I changed the category to "film photography", I got 10,000. Hmmmm.
Many years in market research tells me that this means something.
to me, film is only available by mailorder;not a single store carries it!; some strong interest
Slide show is hard coded in me as a good thing. Teacher pulls out projector and cassette and it's naptime. Worst thing of the late 90's was the switch to power point.
Yes they have. They are decent parallels. The point is that when folk abandon/don’t abandon one technology in favour of the next, it says nothing about the relative merits of the two technologies.
What bunch of grumpy old men. If young people are enjoying shooting film and making it viable for film manufacturers to continue offering it, I say don't look a gift horse in the mouth. I recently was pointed to a local camera group by my 32 yo daughter who still shoots film. They meet at local breweries once a month and nerd out over their recent finds. Although digital cameras are welcome, every one of the twenty attendees had a film camera with them. About half 35mm and half medium format. Most of them are younger than forty. A group photo was taken by a 4x5 camera and shows some dedicated film shooters.
Oh, and you can still buy a Hickory shaft driver. https://louisvillegolf.com/products/wilsonian-driver
I can't resist.My gastroenterologist, an avid film photographer, has substituted a slide show for propofol when performing colonoscopies. In response, most of his patients are now electing to forego sedation altogether for the procedure.
It's worth noting that LPs have come back as a product, not as the way to listen to music. People are using digital devices to stream or play music directly (namely, their phones vie bluetooth). The LP is a thing to hold, look at, keep, display. It's like a piece of art.
Maybe the LP is analogous, though, since most new record players are cheap junk that sound terrible - just like the only new "film cameras" are wallpapered disposables.
Those new record players also, for the most part, act as Bluetooth speakers and can record the contents of the LP to mp3 - so people can listen to the music. But most LPs come with a voucher for a free mp3 download, anyway.
Film comes with no such convenience. As such, even if a wave of people pick it up, it won't displace casual photo-taking. That will be done with the phone camera. And most people wouldn't consider using film to photograph something "important".
Let's give Sirius a hand folks, he'll be here all week, so tell all your friends. Make sure to stop in the lobby and get some T shirts and cassettes.I use a Ford Explorer and a Jeep Grand Cherokee as my drivers. Both have steel drive shafts, front and rear. I do not think that Hickory or even Old Hickory would do the job.
Why, in your opinion, do people abandon one technology for the next?
I can't resist.
Which do they want to end first?
There are a bunch of people around here who are refurbishing older turntables. And in the places that sell used electronics, the receivers that have a phono stage command a premium.
Here is a sorted link on Vancouver Craigslist, showing the current listing for "turntables".
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=turntable
People (like me) are buying LPs to listen to. Both new ones and used ones. They also like to carry their music with them - thus the popularity of digital output turntables.
People (like me) are buying LPs to listen to
Nice group portrait. They all look like the sort of people who've been friends of mine over the years.What bunch of grumpy old men. If young people are enjoying shooting film and making it viable for film manufacturers to continue offering it, I say don't look a gift horse in the mouth. I recently was pointed to a local camera group by my 32 yo daughter who still shoots film. They meet at local breweries once a month and nerd out over their recent finds. Although digital cameras are welcome, every one of the twenty attendees had a film camera with them. About half 35mm and half medium format. Most of them are younger than forty. A group photo was taken by a 4x5 camera and shows some dedicated film shooters.
Oh, and you can still buy a Hickory shaft driver. https://louisvillegolf.com/products/wilsonian-driver
I visited the train museum in Sacramento. They had an exhibit of the last, and the largest, most powerful and most advanced steam engine ever built. It was a monster. Right next to it was the first General Electric diesel locomotive. Looked puny, but had more torque and power at a fraction of the weight.
I do not think digital is that significant relative to film, but that is a reason people abandon technologies (economics and clear superiority).
Nice group portrait. They all look like the sort of people who've been friends of mine over the years.
My gastroenterologist, an avid film photographer, has substituted a slide show for propofol when performing colonoscopies. In response, most of his patients are now electing to forego sedation altogether for the procedure.
Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk.
Well, my slide shows weren't really all that bad*, but with the carousel begging for 80 or 140 slides, a few less than gallery level slides might have slipped in here and there from time to time. I don't think I have the attention span to watch a slide show of 80 to 140 images of even [insert your favorite photographer here]. If I were to do slides again. I would probably go with 30 tops like a printed portfolio. Weren't Leica projector trays 35 slots? I think there is some truth to the saying that you are judged by your weakest image.
* Some who actually had to sit through them might disagree, but they aren't my friends anymore so their opinions don't count.
Let's give Sirius a hand folks, he'll be here all week, so tell all your friends. Make sure to stop in the lobby and get some T shirts and cassettes.
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