Apple gets you with OS updates. I’m on my third iPad because the last two ran out of memory trying to keep up with the latest IOS. Sony is one of the worst. They never issue firmware updates, they just want you to buy a new camera. I gave up using the navigation system in my 2014 Honda because the updates were expensive and outdated by the time they were installed.
Is the digital photo craze dead? DPReview.com shutting down.
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Apple gets you with OS updates. I’m on my third iPad because the last two ran out of memory trying to keep up with the latest IOS. Sony is one of the worst. They never issue firmware updates, they just want you to buy a new camera. I gave up using the navigation system in my 2014 Honda because the updates were expensive and outdated by the time they were installed.
The bits that write themselves (the fora) cost little except server storage for pictorial examples - which amazon has enough of, but the 11 employees were too much for them.
Selfpropelled dialogues can continue other sites like the french "collections appareils.fr" the german "Digicam club.de" and on "Mflenses" but the ad-and buying new bits content now has to be actively sought.
It is likely that Amazon has no interest in anything that mainly sells used or in small numbers . So they may be adapting to a less globalized and more frugal future world.
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Selfpropelled dialogues can continue other sites like the french "collections appareils.fr" the german "Digicam club.de" and on "Mflenses" but the ad-and buying new bits content now has to be actively sought.
It is likely that Amazon has no interest in anything that mainly sells used or in small numbers . So they may be adapting to a less globalized and more frugal future world.
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And with fewer moving parts, newer tech is likely to last a long time. As long as the device does what you wanted it to do when you bought it, and that is still all you need it to do, why upgrade? Cases in point: I have a computer that I built from parts I bought from NewEgg about 18 years ago. It is running Windows XP. I just finished two jobs on it, one a graphic arts thing using a version of Pagemaker released in 1995. The other was a video project using Adobe Premiere 6.5. Everything worked as it did and still does. That is not to say I’m a Luddite as another computer on my desk is a 24” iMac with the M1 chip.
And for me, the same goes with automobiles. I haven’t had a good reason or heard a good argument to upgrade from my 1983 Volvo that I bought in the late-80s. It still runs solid (I do my own work on it) so why get one of those expensive, highly electronic new-angled things?
Some articles on Dpreview, like this one on the development of sensors, were useful:
m.dpreview.com
As others have noted, the forums were out of control, a cesspool of fanboism and trolling. I will miss being able to look up a written review of a specific camera or accessory. I hope Wayback can archive some of the reviews.
Tech timeline: Milestones in sensor development
Digital sensors are at the heart of digital photography, but their development sometimes gets obscured by the marketing claims made along the way. We take a look at how sensors have developed since the early days of CCD, to better understand the milestones of the past and what's really going on...
m.dpreview.com
As others have noted, the forums were out of control, a cesspool of fanboism and trolling. I will miss being able to look up a written review of a specific camera or accessory. I hope Wayback can archive some of the reviews.
Those arcade machines were assembled with solder that included lead, which has since been banned. As a result, "tin whiskers" deterioration of solder in recent devices generally limits their service life to around 20 years. I don't view this as a problem, since my D810 was made in 2017, and its likely remaining time exceeds my actuarially probable "service life."
Life will go on.
Has April Fool's day moved?
MurrayMinchin
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Regarding stuff disappearing from the Internet...aren't there businesses out there that save everything daily and store it?
About 10 years ago while doing research, I noticed that quoted material would often be followed by a date & website address in court filings. Pretty sure that was to keep a trail of crumbs back to source material even if was deleted in the future.
I discovered the importance of doing this, even in the short term, because the proponent of a big industrial mega project I was a part of fighting against would keep moving damaging material around on their websites, to make it harder to find.
My favourite was a quote from a previous corporate social responsibility report that kept getting shuffled around, "Despite our best efforts to prevent spills, incidents occur" which didn't help their case in trying to build confidence within our community
About 10 years ago while doing research, I noticed that quoted material would often be followed by a date & website address in court filings. Pretty sure that was to keep a trail of crumbs back to source material even if was deleted in the future.
I discovered the importance of doing this, even in the short term, because the proponent of a big industrial mega project I was a part of fighting against would keep moving damaging material around on their websites, to make it harder to find.
My favourite was a quote from a previous corporate social responsibility report that kept getting shuffled around, "Despite our best efforts to prevent spills, incidents occur" which didn't help their case in trying to build confidence within our community
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Some articles on Dpreview, like this one on the development of sensors, were useful:
Tech timeline: Milestones in sensor development
Digital sensors are at the heart of digital photography, but their development sometimes gets obscured by the marketing claims made along the way. We take a look at how sensors have developed since the early days of CCD, to better understand the milestones of the past and what's really going on...
As others have noted, the forums were out of control, a cesspool of fanboism and trolling. I will miss being able to look up a written review of a specific camera or accessory. I hope Wayback can archive some of the reviews.
The Internet Archive aka Wayback Machine has done a good job of archiving reviews, minus the interactive comparison tool and high res sample galleries. However a couple of archivist groups are currently working on their own snapshot of the site including forums and the tools.
That said the Internet Archive is currently defending themselves in court against corporate interests this week...
I have already saved some camera reviews that I am interested in as “html complete” and also printed them to PDF, but there are a lot more there that are of interest to me than I have time to save.
A neo-luddite is not the worst "job-title" one can have, rather a mark of perceptiveness.
Originally the fictious colonel Ludd not just led the machine destroyers who lost their jobs, but also the many unemployed who united in protest against societal change.
To deplore current developments is laudable, but to analyze causality and offer improvements is even better.
p.
Originally the fictious colonel Ludd not just led the machine destroyers who lost their jobs, but also the many unemployed who united in protest against societal change.
To deplore current developments is laudable, but to analyze causality and offer improvements is even better.
p.
Some articles on Dpreview, like this one on the development of sensors, were useful:
Tech timeline: Milestones in sensor development
Digital sensors are at the heart of digital photography, but their development sometimes gets obscured by the marketing claims made along the way. We take a look at how sensors have developed since the early days of CCD, to better understand the milestones of the past and what's really going on...
As others have noted, the forums were out of control, a cesspool of fanboism and trolling. I will miss being able to look up a written review of a specific camera or accessory. I hope Wayback can archive some of the reviews.
The forums may have been a key because alot of glowing product reviews got shredded by people on the forums..
SO perhaps it can be seen as a "we dont think this forum user review will inspire anyone to purchase this item from us, so were just getting rid of the forum"
Check out the IA for DPReview. It is filled with captures from their site of a special page that tells "bots" and "Scrapers" that they are not allowed to capture the site and to get lost... Classy, DPReview.
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Running a small forum site is cheap. Running a site at scale is not, as the admins of photrio would be the first to tell you.
Amazon bought dpreview primarily to funnel purchases to their marketplace. As the market for point-and-shoot and other consumer grade cameras dried up, so did the value of the site to Amazon. Amazon's ownership also limited their ability to attract external advertisers. So they ended up with a small non-strategic asset combined with the inevitable inefficiencies and overhead of a large company. So I'm not surprised at the shutdown.
One of the things I noticed in discussions about the shutdown is how few of the forum participants would be willing to accept paying for a subscription. If they attract more than a nominal-sized audience, that's something the successor sites are going to challenges in addressing. Internet display advertising has been coming less effective for a few years now, and privacy concerns and regulation will ensure that trend continues. That's why, for example, Facebook removed the "always free" language from its signup page in 2019, or why Musk is pushing so hard on new revenue streams for Twitter.
I'll continue to pay for Photrio and spend money with their sponsors. But if I want to participate in forums about, say, Micro-four-thirds gear I expect I'll have to pay for another site as well.
DPReview has been given a reprieve...so the digital photo craze is not dead ?
Back for good it appears
So the digital craze isn’t dead? 
So the digital craze isn’t dead?
I suspect that some are burying it while it is still alive, just like they tried to do with film.
Nicholas Lindan
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The digital craze isn't dead? Are we sure...
I thought it was all q-bits now: "Maybe it's a 1, maybe it's a 0, can't tell right now, come back in a bit and maybe we can tell you."
Long live fuzzy thinking! Can't be bothered to be ambivalent or ambiguous? We now have a machine that can do that for you! And give a different answer every time you ask the same question. "What's my bank balance?" "Well, there is a 62.5% chance it is $3,458.19. And an 43% chance it is $2,809.21. There is an 82% chance that the sum of the chances will be greater than 100%"
It would be fitting to name one of these Quantum Quomputers "The Douglas Adams."
I thought it was all q-bits now: "Maybe it's a 1, maybe it's a 0, can't tell right now, come back in a bit and maybe we can tell you."
Long live fuzzy thinking! Can't be bothered to be ambivalent or ambiguous? We now have a machine that can do that for you! And give a different answer every time you ask the same question. "What's my bank balance?" "Well, there is a 62.5% chance it is $3,458.19. And an 43% chance it is $2,809.21. There is an 82% chance that the sum of the chances will be greater than 100%"
It would be fitting to name one of these Quantum Quomputers "The Douglas Adams."
Sean
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"5 billion digital photos are taken every day.
By 2030, around 2.3 trillion photos will be taken annually"
Seems not to be going anywhere, but by 2030 I wonder if people will spend much time at all in actual reality (I am betting on no), at which time photo-taking might collapse because everyone is mostly existing in VR world.
By 2030, around 2.3 trillion photos will be taken annually"
Seems not to be going anywhere, but by 2030 I wonder if people will spend much time at all in actual reality (I am betting on no), at which time photo-taking might collapse because everyone is mostly existing in VR world.
"5 billion digital photos are taken every day.
By 2030, around 2.3 trillion photos will be taken annually"
Seems not to be going anywhere, but by 2030 I wonder if people will spend much time at all in actual reality (I am betting on no), at which time photo-taking might collapse because everyone is mostly existing in VR world.
Everyone already exists in the VR world. Look at your desktop: it's not 2D, with those folders and documents and MS-Word pretending to be a sheet of paper. It's already VR, already 3D. It's just bad 3D. And yet it's VR-enough to get a few things done.
People will continue to make more and more and more pictures and they will individually mean less and less and less and less -- this deflationary-value aspect of photography has been on a consistent downward slope since at least 1850.
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