Fifty percent is still a rather high divorce rate!
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"But based on the 2021 data from the World Population Review, California now has one of the lowest divorce rates in the country at 9.30%. This figure refers to the percentage of the California population (estimated to be 39.9 million this 2021) that is divorced."...
Ha, Wilt! The divorce rate in CA is so low because the techies don't marry until they're 45; and by then, or a few years later, they've walked into a camera store and gotten shot before they can file for a divorce. It ain't like the Midwest, where High School sweethearts marry the day they get out of High School at 17, or in Louisiana when the elementary school finally kicks them out of 3rd grade at 24. Every Californian knows ya gotta earn two million dollars first, so you can afford to pay rent for the next two years, with perhaps a couple hundred bucks left over to spend at the camera store, to have something to do when the tech firms lay you off every six months. Or just move into the Iron Triangle or along International Blvd in Oakland or Hunter Point in SF, and you won't even need to worry about long-term life issues - there ain't gonna be no long-term.
I remember when Monterey Cannery Row really was such, and had some very interesting things going on. Still some near things like the nearby famous Aquarium. My sister once lived just a short walk from the Aquarium. But I can do without all the later tourist trap retail development of ole Cannery Row itself. And there's nothing like watching East of Eden with James Dean for that Steinbeck perspective on it. SF's Fisherman's wharf also still has a few interesting things and so-so tempting restaurants (you pay for the view, not the food
necessarily), but has some of the most gawd-awful slippery "investment" galleries around, just like Ghiardelli Square. We almost never go there, but mainly when in SF head toward the Beach neighborhoods, or some Chinatown per se restaurant. Downtown has gotten too sterile for me; miss the tremendous bookstores and such. GG Park is still inviting, and the Presidio. But for every trip I make to SF, I make a fifty times more to the Marin side of the Golden Gate.
….But I can do without all the later tourist trap retail development of ole Cannery Row itself. And there's nothing like watching East of Eden with James Dean for that Steinbeck perspective on it. …
This is an interesting time. What I did not read in the article (it was lightly mentioned) is the outflow of retired people to other states from California. Boomers who own a house in CA that has increased greatly in value, but their income upon retirement will not maintain the lifestyle they want. So they sell the house, buy a nicer place for a third of the price, and use the difference for investments, vacations, or whatever. I think northern Idaho is filled with CA retired police officers.Consider that a huge fraction of 'Californians' were not born here...
This is an interesting time. What I did not read in the article (it was lightly mentioned) is the outflow of retired people to other states from California. Boomers who own a house in CA that has increased greatly in value, but their income upon retirement will not maintain the lifestyle they want. So they sell the house, buy a nicer place for a third of the price, and use the difference for investments, vacations, or whatever. I think northern Idaho is filled with CA retired police officers.
Sort of an interesting move for CA to tax pensions high enough to send retirees out-of-state (Florida. Nevada. South Dakota do not tax pensions, for example). Retirees run up the health care bills and take up space for new wage earners!
The divorce rate is low because the higher earner (especially high tech worker) discovers that the judge interprets "no fault" divorces differently than you and I do. Especially when it comes to splitting equity and future income. If the lower earner is a substantially lower earner (as is the case when a software engineer at Google marries a public school teacher), at divorce the teacher get far more than half of the community property and at least half of the engineers income. The idea is that the judge intends the teacher's lifestyle to be no worse than the engineer's lifestyle after the divorce... and until they each die. Oh, and then there is the public discussion of the engineer's finances in court. Anyone who wanders in (and anyone can) get to hear lawyers and the judge argue over intimate details of the engineer's life. It is deliberately painful and designed to make the couple choose to stay together rather than face that. Oh wait, I didn't mention the predatory lawyers who will make big fees for doing absolutely incompetent work... such as forgetting the name of the person they represent while talking to the judge, making basic arithmetic errors in their court filings... and more. Yeah, divorce sucks.Ha, Wilt! The divorce rate in CA is so low because the techies don't marry until they're 45; and by then, or a few years later, they've walked into a camera store and gotten shot before they can file for a divorce. It ain't like the Midwest, where High School sweethearts marry the day they get out of High School at 17, or in Louisiana when the elementary school finally kicks them out of 3rd grade at 24. Every Californian knows ya gotta earn two million dollars first, so you can afford to pay rent for the next two years, with perhaps a couple hundred bucks left over to spend at the camera store, to have something to do when the tech firms lay you off every six months. Or just move into the Iron Triangle or along International Blvd in Oakland or Hunter Point in SF, and you won't even need to worry about long-term life issues - there ain't gonna be no long-term.
….What I did not read in the article (it was lightly mentioned) is the outflow of retired people to other states from California. Boomers who own a house in CA that has increased greatly in value, but their income upon retirement will not maintain the lifestyle they want…..
The stat that I mentioned
California Divorce Statistics For 2023 | Heath Baker Law
Learn more about the California Divorce Statistics for 2021 in our latest blog post. Got Questions? Contact us for a consultation today! We are here to help!heathbakerlaw.com "But based on the 2021 data from the World Population Review, California now has one of the lowest divorce rates in the country at 9.30%. This figure refers to the percentage of the California population (estimated to be 39.9 million this 2021) that is divorced."Divorce Rate in California: 7 Interesting Facts - Her Lawyer
California's divorce rate is amongst the lowest in the country. Here are some interesting facts about the divorce rate in California.herlawyer.com
3. California had the Highest Divorce Rate in the United States in 2012Although California is recognized today as one of the states with the lowest divorce rate, this was not always the case. In 2012, the State of California had the highest rate of divorce in the United States, at about 60%."Perhaps the fact that the entertainment industry is filled with people with multiple marriages has something to do with inflating CA statistics more than other states?!
The divorce rate is low because the higher earner (especially high tech worker) discovers that the judge interprets "no fault" divorces differently than you and I do. Especially when it comes to splitting equity and future income. If the lower earner is a substantially lower earner (as is the case when a software engineer at Google marries a public school teacher), at divorce the teacher get far more than half of the community property and at least half of the engineers income. The idea is that the judge intends the teacher's lifestyle to be no worse than the engineer's lifestyle after the divorce... and until they each die. Oh, and then there is the public discussion of the engineer's finances in court. Anyone who wanders in (and anyone can) get to hear lawyers and the judge argue over intimate details of the engineer's life. It is deliberately painful and designed to make the couple choose to stay together rather than face that. Oh wait, I didn't mention the predatory lawyers who will make big fees for doing absolutely incompetent work... such as forgetting the name of the person they represent while talking to the judge, making basic arithmetic errors in their court filings... and more. Yeah, divorce sucks.
And some, like myself, didn’t wait until retirement to “escape.” While I truly loved what was left of the ”California lifestyle,” I bailed in 1991 when I made a career change and moved to Billings. Yes, we sold the house we’d owned for 10-years and, yes, we were able to pay cash for 2 houses here. One we rented and still live in the other one.
There are many trade-offs in leaving California for other places. The downside is that we have no ocean here, there is a lack of ethnic diversity, there is very littler in the way of good ethnic food, the attitudes are quite provincial, and, of course, we do have winter. On the plus side, I went from 2-4 hour daily freeway commute to driving 8 minutes to where I worked. I had summers and holidays off with my kids so lots of travel. There is a sense of small community even though we are the largest city in the state. Homes are larger since they have basements (great for my darkroom). We have no sales tax but property taxes are high to make up for that.
Yes, some younger people are also bailing out of the west coast and moving here. Several of my former student to whom I taught computer programming, moved to San Francisco or Seattle, established themselves in that industry and have now moved back, working remote. I have an acquaintance who commutes weekly, working for a large search company.
The crime rate here is, statistically, higher that the Bay Area or Seattle but most of it is between people who know each other or directly drug related. Since I don’t hang out with druggies or people with violent tendencies, I feel quite safe in every part of our city.
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The more I see of robberies of camera kit, the more I believe concealed carry permits are needed, with some good training, or in having several fit, photography club members meet up for a day of shooting; especially if you want to shoot in questionable areas with good kit.
Cheers,
Eli
Ha, Wilt! The divorce rate in CA is so low because the techies don't marry until they're 45; and by then, or a few years later, they've walked into a camera store and gotten shot before they can file for a divorce. It ain't like the Midwest, where High School sweethearts marry the day they get out of High School at 17, or in Louisiana when the elementary school finally kicks them out of 3rd grade at 24. Every Californian knows ya gotta earn two million dollars first, so you can afford to pay rent for the next two years, with perhaps a couple hundred bucks left over to spend at the camera store, to have something to do when the tech firms lay you off every six months. Or just move into the Iron Triangle or along International Blvd in Oakland or Hunter Point in SF, and you won't even need to worry about long-term life issues - there ain't gonna be no long-term.
It does, but I found CA to be pretty good divorce-wise. My ex-spouse tried the to nullify my existance, but the court made her play fair...after I could borrow the money for the lawyer. I ended up with half the house, half her retirement savings, alimony (not called that anymore) and child-support, which did not please her. If we could have handled it in a friendly manner, she would have gotten off paying much less.... Yeah, divorce sucks.
The problem is for many younger workers, the better jobs are often in the most expensive places to live. Salaries are usually higher there as well. Of course, a lot of people are drawn to less remote and more urban places like parts of Texas and Florida which have nice weather too and no state income taxes. More ethic diversity and better food.
This is an interesting time. What I did not read in the article (it was lightly mentioned) is the outflow of retired people to other states from California. Boomers who own a house in CA that has increased greatly in value, but their income upon retirement will not maintain the lifestyle they want. So they sell the house, buy a nicer place for a third of the price, and use the difference for investments, vacations, or whatever. I think northern Idaho is filled with CA retired police officers.
Sort of an interesting move for CA to tax pensions high enough to send retirees out-of-state (Florida. Nevada. South Dakota do not tax pensions, for example). Retirees run up the health care bills and take up space for new wage earners!
Long time CA residents end up house rich, yet their retirement incomes do not stretch as far due to high gasoline prices (no one can explain why CA pays $1.20/gal more than the national average!), high electricity cost (CA used to have one of the cheapest electricity costs, and then deregulation made that go away...(I pay $0.55 for each additional kilowatt/hour! used) so their property is their piggy bank and they move to make their major asset more liquid..
The marginal tax rate alone does not tell the whole story...while the highest rate belongs to CA, if you have a moderate income, it can be virtually the same as other states. Plus, California does not tax social security. If you make less than $100K a year, you could easily find yourself paying less in taxes if you stay in California than you would if you leave the state to retire. https://www.cunninghamlegal.com/california-retirement-taxes/
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