I wrote back to Fuji UK, copying the earlier message claiming no discontinuance of Reala and linking to the BJP story. I've asked for clarification, hopefully some sense may come of this by Monday.
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I wrote back to Fuji UK, copying the earlier message claiming no discontinuance of Reala and linking to the BJP story. I've asked for clarification, hopefully some sense may come of this by Monday.
I wonder when the petitions are going to start 
If the 800Z now gets discontinued, at least Fuji is the fastest film company in the world! Discontinuation, re-introduction and discontinuation in just a few months! Holy cow, now that's quick!
Well, let's see what happens. At least this is quite interesting. What a chaos!
Well, let's see what happens. At least this is quite interesting. What a chaos!
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Just ordered what I need. Thanks for clarifying.
BTW, B&H has already marked all the 800Z in 120/220 as discontinued.
Just ordered what I need. Thanks for clarifying.
BTW, B&H has already marked all the 800Z in 120/220 as discontinued.
Indeed, it's very chaotic. Still, no official press release or something.
Maybe Fuji decided to "massacre" the "bad sellers" of their range and keep the good ones. Instead of discontinuing emulsion by emulsion, like Kodak.
lilserenity said:
Just had a reply from Fuji UK, Reala in 35mm is discontinued but remains in 120. Now, that maybe a UK only discontinuance, I don't know, but tragic none the less. I wonder what to replace it with.
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At least we have 120 for now... I find that pretty surprising, I always had thought Reala was a big seller in 35mm, I know I certainly like the stuff, not shot it recently but I'm still making my way through a 20 roll Pro Pack. I've got some lovely stuff with it too, (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lilserenity/3998036200/)I guess as a replacement the closest would be Portra 160NC, but Reala had that bit more punch, maybe Portra 160VC. I don't think Superia 100 is that close but I might be wrong.
Vicky
I don't know if there are a lot of people here that buy films in huge quanity once a year rather than when it's needed but it is not like your getting a disconount (at most places) so if you buy it little by little it will continually keep it moving. I buy film as I need it.....
I've built a stash of my favorite films in the freezer (minimum of 2 year supply for 120 and 4x5), then buy as I rotate the frozen out. Should give me breathing room if Tri-X 400 in 120 or HP5+ in 4x5 go belly up.
Mike
Mike
My train of thought is similar to yours. I don't think Superia 100 exists anymore, I think it's been replaced with the budget Fujicolor 100. I thought I might try Superia 200 but it'll be grainier. Maybe 160VC and play with the rating?
I've been doing a lot of RA4 printing of Reala and it's wonderful stuff, punchy in the sun but still quite 'natural' to my eye. There's no grain at all on my 8x10 prints. I've ordered 20 rolls. I thought about ordering more but this stockpiling is killing my budget - Endura paper and 800Z are also on their way out. I think Ektar must have killed Reala sales as I always thought this was a big seller for Fuji. It's the most popular film at the Fuji pro shop.
My entire colour film / paper choice has been discontinued in a matter of months...
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Yes, Fujicolor 100 is what it's called now, it's the same stuff, it could be worth a go, it's cheap enough to. Superia 200 is a great film, not that grainy or that much grainier than Reala, if at all in fact, but it is definitely contrastier in my experience. No bad thing, maybe a little overexposure may control that. Worth trying but I have a hunch you'll get on better with 160VC, may also be worth trying Gold 200 which I quite like.
It does strike me odd that Ektar canibalised Reala sales as to me they are very different films. But it seems that may be the cause. I have a good stock here and will continue to shoot 120 Reala but I know what you mean about the stockpiling, it's killing my bank balance too. I am trying to buy as much Supra Endura as I can afford, not nearly as much as I'd like to but bills have to be paid I guess!
Like you, 800Z and Reala were staples for me, as was 160S...
If we don't see 160NS or whatever they're gonna call it on these shores, it's pretty much just Reala and 400H for my colour negative needs from Fuji. I'll still use their E6 material mind.
I just hope Supra Endura doesn't kick the bucket in sheet form too soon, optical RA4 prints are just gorgeous and so cost effective compared to digital + printers + inks....
Vicky
Supra Endura has kicked the bucket...There was a petition done to save it but there was no result. There is now not company as far as I have been told that cuts color paper into sheets. The only way to do it would be to get an 84 foot roll of 10 inch paper from kodak and cut 84 sheets yourself.
Rotatrim is a good option here.
Ultra Endura is still there in sheets. I posted a reference earlier.
PE
PE
I've got seven boxes of 10x8, the newer ones have an expiry date of 01/2011. I wondered about freezing the stuff but the boxes are big and I'd need to buy a larger freezer - then I'd have less money for the paper!
Paper options are like this I think:
Ektacolor Edge (rolls only)
Ultra Endura (too contrasty?)
Fuji Crystal Archive (rolls only)
I've got some rolls of Edge and it's a hassle to cut them down, but better than nothing. I've heard the Fuji CA will be back in sheets very soon now (I was told 4 weeks), cut by a 3rd party.
Certainly frustrating: the key to colour printing is consistency, I've standardised film and paper only for both to be killed off. Now I'll have to learn new films and papers. I've gone from shooting Fuji and printing onto Kodak to probably shooting Kodak and printing onto Fuji.
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Well I really hope we see Fuji CA in sheet form again, I think it might be Ilford that has agreed to cut it, but the chances of anybody heading this up of confirming it here must be zero.
I have 1 box of 10x8100 sheets with about 40 sheets left, 2 fresh boxes of 8x10" 50 pack and 2 x 9x12" -- all have dates for 2010. Pay day was only yesterday so maybe I'll have to look at the finances and see if I can get a couple more boxes.
I admit I have tended to be more of a Kodak person for 35mm film but I'm in a very similar predicament.
The next step might have to be a scanner and a decent inkjet for colour and just do black and white in the darkroom; I really don't want to but we're just being squeezed and squeezed and whilst I am doing what I can, at the end of the day, the electric bill and the water bill all have to be paid before film and paper.
What a sad day
Vicky
The next step might have to be a scanner and a decent inkjet for colour and just do black and white in the darkroom; I really don't want to but we're just being squeezed and squeezed and whilst I am doing what I can, at the end of the day, the electric bill and the water bill all have to be paid before film and paper.
What a sad day
Chin up! I could be much worse. I'll keep on going as long as I can. I started this out of curiosity and a desire to say that at least I'd tried it. But I've caught the bug - RA4 prints are magical and making them is immensely satisfying. I can't go back to scanning - just like I couldn't eat Hershey's 'chocolate' after trying Cadbury's!
Maybe 2010 is the final year for home RA4, maybe it's 2011 or beyond. Either way I'm going to make sure I've got a great collection of real colour prints to look at in the future.
Silver print do fujicolour CA in cut sheets, I got my 9.5 x12 a few weeks ago.
When it comes to cutting down paper (I usually cut 8x10 or 11x14 own to 5x7s), I usually just dedicate an hour or so of time to "paper cutting" and focus on doing just that. After everything is sorted I put everything in safes or boxes and go on to the next task (which might just be leaving the darkroom for the night).
I've been thinking of going to the communal darkroom where I work (actually, I work for two institutions, both with darkrooms) and getting all this Edge cut down in one go. I need more space than in my tiny home darkroom. I figured I could mount the roll on a broomstick between two chairs and just feed it into a guillotine. Being colour paper makes it harder as you can't see if everything is in line and square.
I was just hinted at a Fuji discontinuation list of the japanese homemarket from last month (aside from their price lists).
That list too shows only 5 total cancellations:
-) Neopan Presto 400 in 120
-) Pro 160 NC in 120
-) T64 in 4x5"
-) T64 in 4x5" QL
-) T64 in 8x10"
T64 is still listed as 135 and 120,
Neopan 400 Presto is still listed as 135
Pro 160NC is still listed as 4x5", 4x5"QL and 8x10"
Pro 800 is still listed as 120
Again: this is the japanese market, and this does not give information on long term availabilty.
That list too shows only 5 total cancellations:
-) Neopan Presto 400 in 120
-) Pro 160 NC in 120
-) T64 in 4x5"
-) T64 in 4x5" QL
-) T64 in 8x10"
T64 is still listed as 135 and 120,
Neopan 400 Presto is still listed as 135
Pro 160NC is still listed as 4x5", 4x5"QL and 8x10"
Pro 800 is still listed as 120
Again: this is the japanese market, and this does not give information on long term availabilty.
I spoke to Dirk at JapanExposures about Reala and he says there's no notice of discontinuation from Fuji Japan, just a reorganisation from 5 packs to 3 packs and no more 24.exp rolls. Read more here:
http://www.japanexposures.com/2010/...nize-film-lineup/comment-page-1/#comment-2378
Maybe the 'discontinuation' is actually a stopping of importation into the UK. If so, that wouldn't be too bad if I can find an EU source or even direct from Japan.
In the meantime, 20 rolls came today from Fuji UK, expiry 01/2012. Depending upon this year's 'summer' this lot could last two years!
http://www.japanexposures.com/2010/...nize-film-lineup/comment-page-1/#comment-2378
Maybe the 'discontinuation' is actually a stopping of importation into the UK. If so, that wouldn't be too bad if I can find an EU source or even direct from Japan.
In the meantime, 20 rolls came today from Fuji UK, expiry 01/2012. Depending upon this year's 'summer' this lot could last two years!
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set up some sort of a stopper at however long/wide you want your paper to be? IE if you're using 8"rolls and need 8x10 sheets, put the stopper at the 10"mark then feed the paper in towards it?
Yes, I think the stopper idea is best. Positioning the roll close enough so that any mis-alignment won't produce rhombus shaped paper, but far enough away so the paper lies flat as it feeds into the cutter.
B&H - 800Z
B&H has about 50 rolls of 800Z left. If this is really the end of distribution right now, then there's not much 800Z left.
B&H has about 50 rolls of 800Z left. If this is really the end of distribution right now, then there's not much 800Z left.
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