Interesting new film - Film Washi

[Gaetan Cormier]

To see the subtitles on the youtube video you must click on CC in the lower right portion of the video

 

[TheToadMen]

I finally got me a bottle of Tetenal Eukobrom so I can start using my first 10 rolls of Washi film.
The next step is more difficult: what camera to use?

- Bronica SQ-B (with superb 40 mm lens),
- Bronica RF-645,
- Hasselblad SWC (from 1964 with fixed 38 mm lens),
- Rolleiflex T (type 1 from 1958)
- Fodor B (a rebranded camera, made by Tayido Koki, Japan - a.k.a. Beauty Camera Co.)
- Mamiya 645 Pro,
- Mamiya RB67 (new to me, didn't use it yet),
- Wooden pinhole camera (6x18 cm format),
- old Gevabox (6x9 cm) cm rebuild into pinhole camera,
- Rollei 66 (I'm thinking about selling this one in order to reduce my number of MF cameras)
- all of the above ....

 

[mooseontheloose]

I finally got me a bottle of Tetenal Eukobrom so I can start using my first 10 rolls of Washi film.
The next step is more difficult: what camera to use?

- Bronica SQ-B (with superb 40 mm lens),
- Bronica RF-645,
- Hasselblad SWC (from 1964 with fixed 38 mm lens),
- Rolleiflex T (type 1 from 1958)
- Fodor B (a rebranded camera, made by Tayido Koki, Japan - a.k.a. Beauty Camera Co.)
- Mamiya 645 Pro,
- Mamiya RB67 (new to me, didn't use it yet),
- Wooden pinhole camera (6x18 cm format),
- old Gevabox (6x9 cm) cm rebuild into pinhole camera,
- Rollei 66 (I'm thinking about selling this one in order to reduce my number of MF cameras)
- all of the above ....

Ten cameras...ten rolls of film -- what's the question again?

 

[Simon R Galley]

Current RC Prints are incredibly stable ( have been since the 2nd generation ) and not inferior to FB, You can mount and frame RC prints : They do not 'silver out' if you experience bronzing you are experiencing incorrect fixing and washing, but that's really pretty hard to do with RC.. more likely airborne 'chemical' type pollution, which again is very rare. When you frame remember always to seal the backboard with framers tape or masking tape at the very least, regardless of RC or FB.

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

 

[coigach]

Have a project in mind for using this film. Any APUG'er's able to post any pictures of how they got on with the film? Any practical hints gratefully received...

 

[TheToadMen]

I've still got my first loaded in my Bronica RF645 so I hope to go out shooting soon.

First lesson (to me) about loading: there is a paper wrapper (with instructions) rolled around the actual 120 roll film. I didn't notice it at first so I tried to XXX it into the take up spool, thinking it was the backing paper itself. Then I winded and the paper came off from the roll. After the first scream I noticed it was an "extra layer" around the actual film ... pew ... and then the film loaded as usual like any roll film, obviously.


BTW: there is a Washi Group on Facebook, see: https://www.facebook.com/groups/669834733047409/

 

[coigach]

Any update pf folks experience with this film?

Have got x3 rolls of 120 to play with...

 

[removed account4]

Any update pf folks experience with this film?

Have got x3 rolls of 120 to play with...

i am SO looking forward to hearing / seeing how you like it !
PLEASE !! keep us posted

- john

 

[ValoPeikko]

Any new developments, my order of this stuff is just leaving France to be used in a project I have in mind. Sheets of 18x24 and rolls of 120.

I'd love to see contact prints made from this stuff, also if anyone has tried it for cyanotypes / kallitypes / etc alternative techniques, I'd love to know.

 

[mooseontheloose]

I've shot and developed a couple of rolls myself, but I haven't had a chance to get into the darkroom to do some contact prints or enlargements. I've tried scanning them but my scanner cannot deal with the paper negs and goes offline every time I try. But I'm off work as of next Wednesday for a couple of weeks, so hopefully will be able to catch up and show some prints here.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

I was just thinking about this, I am curious too if anyone tested it. Is like to buy a box of 4x5 now as well. Does anyone know how much shipping would be to the US?

Why not just use 4x5 enlarging paper?:confused:

 

[removed account4]

Why not just use 4x5 enlarging paper?:confused:

ralph

regular old enlarging paper isn't hand coated on mulberry paper !

 

[TheToadMen]

Why not just use 4x5 enlarging paper?:confused:

The Wasi paper is much thinner, thus easier to make contact prints.

Bert from Holland
http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl

 

[Newt_on_Swings]

How do people like this? It's been a while that I forgot about this product. How was it to load? Does it sit well in film holders without sag? How do you dry it after developing? Fiberglass screens? Or will that impart a grid pattern? Maybe drying book? I should just splurg and get a pack soon. Christmas has been limiting my budget.


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[coigach]

Plan to test my few rolls soon. My trusty P67II had a broken shutter which has only recently been fixed so my show is now back on the road again. Will update folks here with how I got on...

 

[mooseontheloose]

How do people like this? It's been a while that I forgot about this product. How was it to load? Does it sit well in film holders without sag? How do you dry it after developing? Fiberglass screens? Or will that impart a grid pattern? Maybe drying book? I should just splurg and get a pack soon. Christmas has been limiting my budget.


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I'm pretty new to it and haven't shot it in 4x5 but it appears to do well in film holders although people seem to have some issues loading the film into them. There are a few posts about this on the Films Washi facebook page.

I've dried the film normally, cutting it into strips beforehand (at the fixing stage) to deal with the massive curl that seems to occur when hanging the entire 120 roll. So, I didn't have curling issues but it twisted a bit as it dried - as you can see from the photos below I found it hard to find a way to hang the negs in such a way that they would stay relatively flat and not buckle. To get completely flat negs, after they were dried and spent a couple days under heavy books, I put them between pages of blotting paper and ironed them and they look great. The one issue I don't like is the frill on the edges, just outside of the emulsion area - I want to find a way to eliminate that. One of my rolls did not get fully exposed (not sure if it is because of user, camera, or film error) so I dried that bit of film on a piece of glass, as I was curious as to what it would happen, as I know washi paper is dried on flat boards and thought this could work too. It did dry extremely flat but parts of it stuck to the glass (!), but I may have had it emulsion side down. In any event, more experimenting needs to be done.

 

[europanorama]

Apparently it is?

What gets me though is that in their products page they mention they are attempting to produce a 135 cartridge containing their product - I am having trouble imagining it being strong enough to withstand the strain of being run through a 35mm camera. Though it does seem appealing enough that I would buy some...

i use hand coated paper all the time
( washi film is hand spooled hand coated paper )
you use something like perma wash / fixer remover it will
reduce washing times ....
i wonder how thin the paper is, very thin will be difficult. to develop
and this paper comes in many thicknesses

0.08mm if i dont err. from the producer. i have also the thin Agfa Avipan 200 PEO(0.06mm) beside the normal one PE1 0.1mm. i remember very well loading thinner than washi-film (0.08mm) to jobo 2570 reel(70mm/172cm/220 lenght). Old trick is cutting the corners of film
-tongue.
Agfa Avipan 200-filmthickness PE1(0.1mm), PEO(0.06mm)
http://www.gommamag.com/v4/downloads/data/006_page/agfa_other/aviphot_pan200.pdf

It must be checked in which cameras this thin thickness (0.08mm) could be a problem. a) transport-problem when autodriven b) filmflatness.
i want to join 2x 120 into a 220 one. and remove paper. have added 0.1mm tape anyway to filmpressure plate of kiev60 to improve film-flatness.
and 220-film-usage. tip from bayerfoto.de
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have not yet found out why one cannot mount into standard reels. HP-Combina-reels have a thorn at the axis which can be reached with a loader.
so no problem using that tank. 35 and 120/220-reels available. didnt yet test 220-lenght.

 

[Oxleyroad]

Just got my Washi film today. Looking forward to shooting it today after I get some rest. Watching AFL grand final live - Go Doggies!

Will post about it Sunday.

 

[Oxleyroad]

Well the film is very interesting in more ways than one. I thought to myself why not just put this paper into the spiral to develop until I actually felt it and then thought I would follow the published instruction for developing. The paper negative did exactly as I expected and wrinkled up during drying. It is kind of odd running an iron over the negative to make it flat. For me 645 negatives are just a bit too small for my liking and 6x6 would be the minimum I would use. I will relegate this film to my 6x7, 6x9 and 6x17 cameras. Glad I got some 4"x5" as well as the 120 roll.

Oh for those who do not know, the Doggies won the final. 62 years since their last win in the final.

 

[AgX]

i have also the thin Agfa Avipan 200 PEO(0.06mm) beside the normal one PE1 0.1mm. i remember very well loading thinner than washi-film (0.08mm) to jobo 2570 reel(70mm/172cm/220 lenght). Old trick is cutting the corners of film

You are comparing PET based emulsion to Washi-paper based emulsion on their thickness.
I do not see the point in this unless both bases have the same specific rigidness.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Im guessing its sort if like rice paper? The images on the site seem to pick up lots of the texture of the paper fibers. Very cool indeed! Id like to try a roll of the 120, totally wish i had a 4x5 setup more and more now. That 12 euro price per roll is kinda scary though, plus shipping costs too.


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Ah... it's just money.the results look like it's worth trying it.