Interesting new film - Film Washi

[SMBooth]

Made on Japanese paper.
http://lomig.fr/index-en.html

 

[trythis]

Cool, Thanks!
When it says: "It is processed in normal black and white paper developer, ..."
What does it mean by paper developer?

Does this mean it can be developed in standard B&W film chemistry?

 

[bvy]

It sounds like it can be developed in the likes of Dektol or Ilford MG/PQ.

I was intrigued to read that it can be "printed using in an enlarger." It's not a transparency as far as I can tell. Is the paper that thin?

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Paper negs. They must have done something to the contrast of the paper to keep it mellower in contrast using print developers.

 

[septim]

It sounds like it can be developed in the likes of Dektol or Ilford MG/PQ.

I was intrigued to read that it can be "printed using in an enlarger." It's not a transparency as far as I can tell. Is the paper that thin?

Apparently it is?

"...Made for centuries in Japan, this paper combines just the right physical properties with a unique aesthetic: strong, flexible and transparent..."

What gets me though is that in their products page they mention they are attempting to produce a 135 cartridge containing their product - I am having trouble imagining it being strong enough to withstand the strain of being run through a 35mm camera. Though it does seem appealing enough that I would buy some...

 

[Shawn Dougherty]

Paper negs. They must have done something to the contrast of the paper to keep it mellower in contrast using print developers.

I'm very tired but that's what it sounded like to me too. Very interesting. A low contrast paper specifically for paper negatives... Might like to try some of that.

 

[removed account4]

this is one of the coolest things i have seen ...
NOW i can get someone else to spool my 122 film spools !

not sure if it is lower contrast ...
the images looked like .. grade 2 liquid emulsion.

 

[NedL]

Could this be something like gratispool paper film? I'm extremely intrigued by this idea. I didn't seem 122 size mentioned but that would clinch it and I'd have to get some!

Edit: this is pretty interesting: http://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/Gratispool.html

 

[Jeff Kubach]

Looks interesting, might have to try some.

Jeff

 

[mooseontheloose]

You'd think something like this would have come from Japan. Go figure.

Looks interesting though, think I'd like to try it.

 

[Newt_on_Swings]

Im guessing its sort if like rice paper? The images on the site seem to pick up lots of the texture of the paper fibers. Very cool indeed! Id like to try a roll of the 120, totally wish i had a 4x5 setup more and more now. That 12 euro price per roll is kinda scary though, plus shipping costs too.


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[AgX]

"Film on paper" is a contradiction in this case. Though useful for marketing.

(Well, I had to find something to gripe about...)

 

[AgX]

Could this be something like Gratispool paper film?

No, Gratispool, as long as they worked with paper negatives, employed the reflected mode to gain positive copies.
Reflecting paper negatives were also offered on the continent by at least one manufacturer during WWII due to lack of film base.

Standard photograhic paper converted to 35mm, double perforated strip was offered up into the 70s.

 

[removed account4]

Im guessing its sort if like rice paper? The images on the site seem to pick up lots of the texture of the paper fibers. Very cool indeed! Id like to try a roll of the 120, totally wish i had a 4x5 setup more and more now. That 12 euro price per roll is kinda scary though, plus shipping costs too.


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yeah it is kind of pricy ... BUT the paper is totally made by hand ..

this stuff is sometimes used as origami paper ...
( and other stuff ... here's how its made ) http://iweb.tntech.edu/cventura/Washi.htm
i've seen it in paper stores ( scrapbookers love it )
and think i bought some to use years ago, but .. life got in the way
i glad the french guy who is selling it's life didn't get in the way!
(from his website, it looks like he has been using this hand coated paper for a while )

 

[mfohl]

I also find it intriguing. I have never tried paper negatives, but I know some people do that. I never heard of anyone using the paper negatives in an enlarger.

But more intriguing is that I can find no prices. There is an "order form". That is a spreadsheet where you can fill in your name and address and quantities of their products, but there is no price by the items. Did I miss something?

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

But more intriguing is that I can find no prices

I found some prices but not for 4x5. I learned some museum quality catalogs printed on japanese papers. Its 1/3 of weight than traditional paper. I dont think postage would be so expensive. I liked the portfolios also. I dont know how it would be possible to coat such a low density paper and keep it flat and protect at home.

 

[winger]

If you click on "products" it shows 28 Euro for the pack of 4x5 (12 sheets). John, I knew you'd want some! I do, too, but the price is a bit steep right now. I might like it if a few others could try it out and see how it behaves first.

 

[AgX]

Is there any indication of speed?

 

[bvy]

I saw ISO 3 - 6 somewhere on their site. So about the same as regular printing paper.

 

[winger]

I think it said 3-6 ISO for the 4x5; I don't remember if it was the same for the other sizes.
I'm going to guess that the 120 is better through a camera that advances manually rather than something like a Pentax 645N?

 

[NedL]

No, Gratispool, as long as they worked with paper negatives, employed the reflected mode to gain positive copies.
Reflecting paper negatives were also offered on the continent by at least one manufacturer during WWII due to lack of film base.

Standard photograhic paper converted to 35mm, double perforated strip was offered up into the 70s.

I just read about this last night... it was like a "copy camera enlarger". Very interesting!
http://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/Gratispool/Paper_Negatives.html

 

[AgX]

In Germany there even had been a enlarger that yielded transmitted as well as reflected light projection.

 

[mfohl]

I'm hoping somebody in the US licenses it. Currently the 120 is about $17 per roll. Add international shipping, and it's quite steep. Maybe if somebody in the US licenses it, we won't have to pay the outrageous VAT.

 

[munz6869]

I've sent a request to order 2x boxes of 5x4" 'film' - I actually bought a roll of Korean Hanji paper in August (from a poorly identified, and difficult to find upstairs shop in Seoul!) with a mind to coating it with liquid emulsion of some sort for a similar end. It'll be interesting to see how this works (and what the hell, I'm in the crazy Double X film order too, so it's clearly that season).

Marc!

 

[Rafal Lukawiecki]

I'm hoping somebody in the US licenses it. Currently the 120 is about $17 per roll. Add international shipping, and it's quite steep. Maybe if somebody in the US licenses it, we won't have to pay the outrageous VAT.

VAT should only be added to sales shipped within the European Union. Talk to the sellers, and if you order to US, they ought to offer you a price net of VAT. On the other hand, you may get hit with a US customs fee when it arrives. Every government wants its piece...

On the other hand, if you order from him directly (not from one of the listed shops) I doubt you'd pay VAT anyway, based on the line which says "TVA non applicable - article 293B du CGI" in the order form. TVA is French VAT, and I guess he is below the threshold for now.