But often I think a ''real'' photographer doesn't use something like that - XP2 is kind of for hobby photographers ... Hey, that's exactly what I am !!!
The reason that you ask is seemingly that Agfa cancelled their film after some years, whereas Ilford went on with theirs. To me it seemed consumers just did not understand the Agfa concept. That of extreme latitude, or wide setting of "ASA". One film for all. Thus it was called Agfapan Vario XL.
I'd suggest that the opposite is true - precisely because XP2 in C-41 shows up how ridiculous most amateur/ hobbyist developer 'testing' is and forces them to get on with the difficult stuff - i.e. actually making images. The whole pointless charade about developing XP2 in B&W developers is indicative of this too ...
This is pure speculation on my part but I suspect it shows a kind of an change in Ilford's outlook on "experimentation" by users for want of a better word.On the topic of processing XP2 Super in B&W chemistry, Ilford published a blog post by @drmoss_ca in 2018 on :
https://www.ilfordphoto.com/ilford-xp2-super-in-black-and-white-chemistry/
In 2020, Ilford published another blog posting, this time by charlescavephoto, on the same topic:
https://www.ilfordphoto.com/processing-xp2s-in-black-and-white-chemistry/
And Ilford updated its technical data sheet for XP2 Super to include the following statement: "users have reported that a good quality image may be obtained using conventional black and white chemistry."
Those who want to explore processing XP2 Super in B&W chemistry will find the above blog posts useful and interesting.
This is pure speculation on my part but I suspect it shows a kind of an change in Ilford's outlook on "experimentation" by users for want of a better word.
Kodak also sold a differently designated chromogenic B&W -- C400T?
I use XP2 Super because I can carry a couple rolls of that and be able to shoot bokeh in full sun, hand held under streetlights (even pretty weak ones), and if I know before frame 1, even hand held in tavern/bar lighting (with a reasonably fast lens) by pushing a stop or two on top of bleach bypass. ISO 50-1600 or higher on the same film. Not to mention in unmodified C-41 it's effectively grainless at EI 400 or lower -- and unlike silver grain films, grain gets less with more exposure.
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...The whole pointless charade about developing XP2 in B&W developers...
In 2020, Ilford published another blog posting, this time by charlescavephoto, on the same topic:
https://www.ilfordphoto.com/processing-xp2s-in-black-and-white-chemistry/
If I shoot this roll at its native ISO of 400 and push or pull a few exposures to 100, 200 & 800 can it developed at its native speed? Or do I have to shoot the entire roll at the same ISO and let the lab know so it can be developed accordingly?
Good to know.
Or perhaps, Harman learned something from what their customers were trying.This is pure speculation on my part but I suspect it shows a kind of an change in Ilford's outlook on "experimentation" by users for want of a better word.
I just cannot imagine the Ilford of old and by that I mean Harman Technology of the pre-Pemberstone era, deviating from the conventional stand on the subject of simply repeating that XP2 Plus is meant for C41 and implying if not actually stating that any other process is at best second best and at worse may create problems
That conservatism seem to have given way to recognising that most of its current new users view matters differently and Ilford's approach is now more "inclusive"
pentaxuser
That only was one aspect. And I do not think it was the idea back then when first introduced. As for instance over here there was no high-street C-41 processing either. These films had to be sent in too. That reason only made sense with the introduction of minilabs.C-41 process B&W films were a response to lack of availability of High Street B&W development, whilst colour minilabs were still common in pharmacies, supermarkets and actual camera shops
Kodak also sold a differently designated chromogenic B&W -- C400T?
This film is excellent for high-contrast scenes. Bright highlights Will not wash out. For normal-contrast scenes the film is a bit soft and low-contrast scenes will require a very hard gradation to get a good print.Today I had my first roll of color film developed in 20 years. While at the lab I picked up a roll of ILFORD XP2 ISO 400 using the C41 process for developing. If you have experience with this film can you post a pic for me, please? Also, any tips or recommendations shooting it.
Thanks in advance,
Rolo
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